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#202808 - 11/07/03 06:03 AM
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I don't see a point to continuing an argument that has been argued since the begining of time. If it hasn't been resolved by now, then it never will be. I consider myself a freethinker, but fully respect that religous people have there own ideas. If you are a true freethinker, then you would not try to sway the views of a strong christian. That is what they do, push there thoughts and views onto others. Lets just leave it alone. Check out this link if you are a freethinker... Freethought Radio . Com
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#202809 - 11/07/03 06:23 AM
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Originally posted by off2cjb: Funny how millions of Christians, millions of Jews, and millions of Muslims believe in the same God. Same God eh ? does that mean the Muslims will also be going to heaven ?
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#202810 - 11/07/03 07:03 AM
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I think a brutally honest world would be awesome. Imagine how much fun it will be to finally tell that really ugly kid down the street, "Dude, you are one ugly kid." Or when our wives ask, "Honey, does this make me look fat?" We can say, "Sweetie, everything makes you look fat because you are fat." And we can be brutally honest because God told us not to lie - under any circumstances.
Lol ![[Spit]](graemlins/spit.gif)
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#202811 - 11/07/03 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by lemsip: Originally posted by off2cjb: [b]Funny how millions of Christians, millions of Jews, and millions of Muslims believe in the same God. Same God eh ? does that mean the Muslims will also be going to heaven ?[/b]Nah, because even though they believe in the same God, they haven't accepted Jesus. Whatever floats your boat is ok with me.
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#202812 - 11/07/03 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by lincolnnellie: I don't see a point to continuing an argument that has been argued since the begining of time. If it hasn't been resolved by now, then it never will be. I consider myself a freethinker, but fully respect that religous people have there own ideas. If you are a true freethinker, then you would not try to sway the views of a strong christian. That is what they do, push there thoughts and views onto others. Lets just leave it alone.
Check out this link if you are a freethinker... Freethought Radio . Com Another great post. Off seems to think we want to convert him when i could care less what he wants to do. I respect him for his beliefs and wish he would for mine. That seems to be the ongoing problem with Christians though they think they are better than no-believers.
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#202813 - 11/07/03 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by Paul Hartwig: Originally posted by lincolnnellie: [b]I don't see a point to continuing an argument that has been argued since the begining of time. If it hasn't been resolved by now, then it never will be. I consider myself a freethinker, but fully respect that religous people have there own ideas. If you are a true freethinker, then you would not try to sway the views of a strong christian. That is what they do, push there thoughts and views onto others. Lets just leave it alone. Check out this link if you are a freethinker... Freethought Radio . Com Another great post. Off seems to think we want to convert him when i could care less what he wants to do. I respect him for his beliefs and wish he would for mine. That seems to be the ongoing problem with Christians though they think they are better than no-believers.[/b]I never stated anywhere in any of my posts concerning religion or Christianity that I am here to convert you or anyone else. I am clearly stating my beliefs and defending them. I respect everyone who earns or deserves it. I don't dislike you because you believe the way you do. I went through years of not having faith. I have been down that road and I am here today living a much better life because I chose the path I now reside on. That is all.
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#202814 - 11/07/03 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by off2cjb: I never said I didn't follow Christ blindly. I do have the balls to admit it, unlike some. Everyone wants proof. There are far more scientists who have proven the events in the Bible did in fact happen than there are scientists who agree that evolution MAY have taken place.
Once again, for those who are not filled with the spirit (meaning believers), you will NEVER get it or understand it.
And since you obviously have proof that there is no God, then please prove it. Why is it us Christians are the ones who need to prove there is a God? Funny how millions of Christians, millions of Jews, and millions of Muslims believe in the same God, and we are wrong. Yet only a handful of you atheists are right. Hmmm?
Why don't you prove there isn't a God? It should be so easy to do according to you all.
I'm waiting................................. -"Why don't you prove there isn't a God? It should be so easy to do according to you all. I'm waiting................................" Ok, have you ever studied quantam mechanics and quantum physics. I dont mean in general but down to the quark level of the atom. The universe is random chaos, but it is from this chaos that comes creation. By having billions of atoms collide with each other everyday (if energy is a constant and not a variable) we are lucky to be here. Imagine, if the earths gravitational pull began to slow down we would begin to loose our atoms to a stronger gravitaional force outside of the earth. Eventually we would loose so much energy on a scale that we couldnt exist anymore. Energy is a way is a "god" It can create, destroy and yet it does it in such randomness and not knowing that we fail to reconize its imortance. Hell, we "humans" now can stop a beam of light. Do you realize how much power is in that? All in all its by general luck that everyday isnt our last. No "god" can plan out something that had no plan in the first place. Peace
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#202815 - 11/07/03 09:21 AM
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Originally posted by Metalikat3003: Ok, have you ever studied quantam mechanics and quantum physics. I dont mean in general but down to the quark level of the atom. The universe is random chaos, but it is from this chaos that comes creation. By having billions of atoms collide with each other everyday (if energy is a constant and not a variable) we are lucky to be here. Imagine, if the earths gravitational pull began to slow down we would begin to loose our atoms to a stronger gravitaional force outside of the earth. Eventually we would loose so much energy on a scale that we couldnt exist anymore. Energy is a way is a "god" It can create, destroy and yet it does it in such randomness and not knowing that we fail to reconize its imortance. Hell, we "humans" now can stop a beam of light. Do you realize how much power is in that? All in all its by general luck that everyday isnt our last. No "god" can plan out something that had no plan in the first place.
Peace Teach me more master!!!! I have much to learn. 
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#202817 - 11/07/03 11:24 AM
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None of you, specifically, can prove it one way or the other so just let it be.
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#202818 - 11/07/03 01:52 PM
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I thought Lemy from Motorhead was god?????
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#202819 - 11/07/03 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Samueul: I thought Lemy from Motorhead was god????? You state that point well. one beer.
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#202822 - 14/07/03 06:51 AM
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And on the sixth day God created the Nissan 350 Z Convertable, and he looked from inside it, and he saw that it was good. After taking a few microbiology classes, my belief that there is a God, etc is just reinforced.
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#202823 - 14/07/03 08:52 AM
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Who created God?, Does God have a family?. Why haven't Coca Cola bought the rights to the name?
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#202826 - 15/07/03 04:42 PM
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Why haven't Coca Cola bought the rights to the name? Question... if God is in everything, when I go to 7-11 and buy a snickers am I purchasing a piece of God? ![[Huh?]](graemlins/huh.gif)
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#202827 - 17/07/03 02:51 PM
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Hell, we "humans" now can stop a beam of light. Do you realize how much power is in that? Peace[/QB][/QUOTE] Isn't that done by the batteries dying or just hitting the off button on a flashlight.  i didn't think it took that much power. ![[LOL]](graemlins/lol.gif)
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