Originally posted by PNUTMNM:
Moby, you can't possibly be suggesting that you wouldn't want him on the bench because he believes in a respects the 10 commandments, do you? I don't know about the man's court record but I'm sure the press would have had a field day with it if he had a lopsided or unfair decision record...
No, no. I have no problem with him having respect for them. But he seems to be putting his spiritual convictions above his duty to the letter of the law. That's why I bring up the Jehovah's thing, and why it's a catch-22. If he sides with the state, then apparently he is sending the message that the Jehovah's spiritual convictions should take a back seat to the law. Is that right?
Dunno. Catch-22.
I believe the problem he has with the removal of the monument is that it represents a further removal of God-like or Christian principals from a place of justice.
but I think that's where he's mistaken. Taking away a physical item shouldn't have any bearing on his Christian principals.
Its the same way my mom felt when she found out that our prayer group couldn't meet on school grounds anymore, but gay-rights clubs could. Not that the gay students shouldn't be allowed to meet, but it seemed like a deliberate attempt to hide or remove the option for Christianity.
But how can you compare the two? A gay student meeting has nothing to do with religion. An at this point, religious groups (of any kind) can't have gatherings on school grounds (I know it's been challenged...not sure of the outcome). So the two can't really be compared.
My old company wouldn't give us a conference room to use at lunch for a men's prayer group, but they let literally hundreds of muslims drag their prayer mats around the building, wash their feet in the breakroom, and kneel and pray to mecca in the cafeteria, hallways, and any empty room they could find. Explain that. They want to be politically correct, but have no tolerance for Judeo-Christian beliefs?
No, that I agree with you. They should be letting both do what they want to do (provided it doesn't take away from productivity). Well, that or not letting either. But treat them the same.
My friends Dawn and Lee just bought a new house in a neighborhood where it turns out they're in the middle of a gay community. When their neighbors discovered that they were a straight married couple who attend church frequently, they were labelled, "Bible Thumpers" and everyone around them avoids them and their house like the plague. Why? They haven't attempted to convert anyone or condem them. Why are people afraid of Christians and what they stand for? Its not like they have a reputation or penchant for partying late, having sex and drug parties, letting their property fall apart or commit henious neighborhood crimes. They might bring you cookies or invite you to come to church with them at Christmas... is that a crime?
Prejudice comes in all flavors. Their neighbors are doing exactly what they are always perceiving people do to them. Someone needs to smack them upside the head and show them their hypocritical attitudes.
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"Nature has constituted utility to man the standard and test of virtue. Men living in different countries, under different circumstances, different habits and regimens, may have different utilities; the same act, therefore, may be useful and consequently virtuous in one country which is injurious and vicious in another differently circumstanced" - Thomas Jefferson, moral relativist