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Originally posted by Sean:

If anything, I believe the moderates and right-wingers far out number the liberals here on XOC.
You can't be serious. That is without a doubt not true. I can see how you don't see it because you think along the same terms. (By the way.... the post directly under your last one... Is he one of yours?)

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I don't trust unions (it was a good concept on paper, but then the Mafia got their hands on it)
The Mafia is one of the lesser problems of unions. They do not have a presence in most of them. Only those in certain sectors. Some of the worst unions are public service unions and the teachers unions.

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I will give you the fact that I am a firm believer in gun CONTROL. (I never stated anything about banning all firearms), and I don't feel that "Big Business" should have complete freedom (I think it already dictates too much of this countries policies).
We differ on gun control vastly. The problem has never been firearms or any weapons for that matter. The problem has always been the PEOPLE involved. I don't believe they should be sold on street corners like hot dogs. But it is wrong for any government to deny law abiding citizens of the right to own one. Here in NY an honest guy must apply, pay the fees, and wait upwards of 6 months. Then there is no guarantee he will be allowed the permit for the firearm. He also will never get his fee back if rejected. This is mainly for longarms. Handguns are almost universally forbidden in NY and only allowed under the strictest of circumstances. Yet criminals buy them on the streets illegally with impunity. When police try to crack down on illegal handguns they are ostracized as being racist and heavy handed. The cops can't win on this issue. We even have laws that mandate a minimun 1 year prison term for an illegal handgun. They are only selectively enforced according to the PC values of the district attorneys. What good is that? Your not going to like this, but it is the liberals that have totally fucked up the system. I was a part of it and saw first hand.

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I have heard though that our "tit-for-tat" sessions get a high number of viewers. I wouldn't mind having an intelligent debate with you someday
That's interesting. Almost like TV ratings. Maybe we should make it a regular thing. We've had rational debates before. Just don't be so touchy about being called a "lefty" on some of your positions. I'm called right winger and all sorts of shit. I never would have lasted here this long if I let every single slur directed at my politics get to me.

I guess I created a long post......