I'm really not here trying to push my religion on anyone. I accept everyone for who they are, and seriously try to not judge anyone, despite my difference of beliefs. My point of beginning this thread was to get people thinking that Separation of Church and State does not mean obstaining from God or religion in State offices. When the President is sworn to office, he swares on the bible in front of the entire country, when we are called to testify under oath, we sware to God we'll tell the truth, on every American legal tender, "In God We Trust" is written on it, and almost every single government office is closed for Christmas and many for Good Friday. For the most part, most everyone would agree with a majority of the 10 Commandments, regardless of their religious beliefs. Who does not believe we should not murder, or steal, or commit adultry for instance. Our laws are based on those beliefs. What part of the 10 Commandments do most people not agree with? Misusing the name of the Lord? Honoring your father and mother (any of you have children)? Give false testimony? Making yourself an idol? Coveting your neighbors house, or wife, or belongings?
What is really horrible about those? What is it about those that offend so many (or so few) people? Do you have any idea what our country would be like if those were not in place? But you know, I understand in a way. I was atheist for a great deal of my life. If I was asked 5 years ago if the 10 Commandments should be removed, I would have agreed, believe it or not. I too celebrated Christmas for the sake of family togetherness, and wore no reference to the Christ part of it. Now thinking though, a person celebrating Christmas, who does not believe in Jesus Christ, is like a Communist celebrating July 4th.
But the thing is, we try too dang hard not to offend anyone. We seem to try so hard to especially not offend the 2% of the population, that we end up offending the vast majority. A few people are upset with the Pledge of Allegiance, so to satisfy those few people, we remove it from school, some people don't get hired because of their race, so affirmative action is implemented, which specifically is designed to be used as a quota, which causes more descrimination (but because it descriminates against a larger population, it's okay).

Anyway, I've gotta say, although this thread fired up a lot of people, I'm glad to see how we can oppose something, but be civil at the same time to one another. I may not agree with you regarding the subject in general, but everyone seems to have the ability to think for themselves, and I do admire that quality of others, and respect you all because of it.
Thanks for the debate, and I'll see you in the other forums!

Chato