[b]I, on the other hand, don't mind being lumped in with the collective, because I've looked at what conservatives stand for, and realised I didn't want any part of it.
I consider the right-wing conservatives "The Collective".
One just has to look at history to see how the "Radicals" (i.e. independent thinkers) like Galileo for instance, were persecuted by this very same "Collective". That's OK though, Rush, O'Reilly, or even Pat Roberson can't stop evolution no matter how hard they try.
This poppy-cock about all liberals not accepting the concept of responsibility, or working hard in order to obtain something near and dear is pure bullshit. Anyone who believes this blanket statement is part of this "Collective".
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ok...I'm NOT a part of the collective now...whew... [/b]
Are you really that stupid to believe the liberals accept responsiblity? Lets look at Clinton, lets look at Carter, lets look at welfare, lets look at abortion, lets look at all the newly-found mind disorders, lets look at healthcare, etc.... There is not one liberal who accepts responsiblity. Not one. There is not one liberal who values working hard, no matter what the reason. Your party's platofrm is built around doing everything for everyone. Where is the responsibility? Where is the accountability? You people make me sick.