#208241 - 29/09/0311:34 PMRe: Who Is Lying about US involvement in Iraq?
NY Madman
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Originally posted by Aero Steve:
Thank you for probably one of your most thoughtful and intelligent posts on XOC. With plenty of sources, kudos. I've ordered the 2 books you suggested. I'll get back to you in a couple weeks after I've read them. I do have a couple friends that are newspaper reporters around here neither report on politics (usually) but are liberal. I live in one of the 2 (out of 105) counties in Kansas that voted Gore in the last election. Being a liberal in a college town is much more common than finding a conservative here. Well there is Fred Phelps about 20 miles west in Topeka, but I don't think anyone would want to claim solidarity with him.
I was wondering if the Media Resource Center would be brought up. You didn't need to. It makes no bones about it having a conservative slant. I purposely left it out of my last post. I think it does no good to say you are correcting bias when you have a stated bias yourself. http://www.mediaresearch.org/bios/lbb/bozellbio.asp
I'll agree with all the news outlets you stated as not being conservative, I'll read your books and get back to you before I'll say ALL of them are liberally biased. Anyone you consider neutral? I've been looking at sites that track bias and haven't decided if any of them don't have a bias themselves.
I have no mental blocks about what Saddam did to his people. Is it our problem to fix? Does the USA have an obligation to be the world's police force? I've always considered Syria more of a threat than Iraq ever was, but the Bush family has a hard on for Saddam. If the USA is going to get into overthrowing countries we don't like, we should have rolled right on into Syria and invited Isreal to retake Lebanon. Where do we draw the line? Should we take over every Muslim country that supports terrorists? That's most of them. This war was a half baked from the beginning and it will cost Bush his Presidency. I say half baked for no other reason than they didn't have an exit strategy.
Ahhh.... The media outlets I mentioned in my previous post are the worst. The LA Times and The NY Times lead the pack for print. Then of course you have the socialist and commie rags like "The Nation", but anyone who is even slightly politically savvy knows what that is from the get go....
You can't even bring yourself to calling the media liberal. You think you are being clever by saying they are "not being conservative". Come on...
I can't name any moderate media organizations. There is no such thing anymore. The only thing that can be measured is how far they lean either left or right. The absolute truth is that there are many, many more that lean to the left. Another issue is political correctness. That in some way destroyed the news industry. Words are powerful. PC removed many words from the venacular and it also dictates what stories will be reported on and that is a shame.
My local newspaper at one time was a good moderate paper. No longer. It is squarely to the left. It even has an outright hatred for the 450,000 inhabitants of the area. You see, the problem is the population of my borough is 70% white. The paper on a daily basis prints articles claiming that everyone who lives here must be some kind of a racist because the borough is not "diverse" enough. Bias issues are on the front page everyday. It's either bias or not enough diversity. It is now printing gay marriage photos. Besides the local articles telling the populace how racist they must be, all the other articles are reprints of LA Times and AP articles. It is owned by Newhouse Publications (same company as the LA Times). I cancelled it two weeks ago. I couldn't take it anymore. It's a shame. It was a good local paper at one time. I've been reading it since I was a teenager but I won't be anymore. According to the letters to the editor lately, I'm not the only one cancelling either.
You live in a college town. Maybe that explains some of your liberalism. Most college professors today are the worst of American society.
Is the US supposed to be the world's police? I don't know. It certainly isn't the UN. All they do is talk, collect huge salaries and do absolutely nothing. They are pure international socialist welfare cases. A total waste of time and effort. Someone has to step up to the plate. For your information, FDR, the Democrats big hero, once envisioned the US as the world's police force along side Britain.
Regarding an Iraq exit strategy... We have one. It's being worked on right now. Do you liberals think building a new country and government takes 4 weeks? How long are you willing to wait? Would you have given Clinton or Al Gore more time? Don't you think you are sounding like a spoiled little child who needs instant gratification? Iraq will take a couple of years and the administration never said otherwise. In fact Bush even said the war on terror may last through several presidencies. Possibly our whole lives. War is no time to act like a spoiled little kid. An obvious partisan Democrat spoiled kid.