Originally posted by NY Madman:
I give money to local charitable organizations every year. Do you give anything?
You mean besides the money I give every year? How about how I serve every first Saturday morning of the month at my church's foodbank, giving food to the poor?
Or how I volunteer every other month with Habitat For Humanity?
You mean besides THAT?
Plus you never answered the question. Do you believe in Jesus seeing that you quote him freely in an attempt to serve your own purpose?
Why yes I do. I became a Christian on fourth of July weekend 1988 when I was thirteen years old.
There is a huge difference from giving to the poor and having a socialist government take your money. I think you are disturbed for seeing these words that way.
The government takes your money anyway. It's called taxes. Or don't you pay these?
No, socialism is about HOW the money is used, not the fact that the government takes your money.
In fact, I'd be comepletly happy paying MORE taxes if it meant that schools were better off, if roads were fixed, if the poor were fed, and that everyone had access to health care services. My having a 300 dollar check come to me from the government doesn't help me at all. I'd much prefer it to go to those who need it. Which is why I donated my check to Compassion International. (Whoops! I didn't help out the economy any, did I?)
Socialism does not put everyone on an even footing. It destroys the human spirit and puts limits on freedom and achievement.
Again, you're confusing communism with socialism. Yes, the communists put a hard line on everyone, and they were corrupt. Socialism is a utopian philosophy where everyone works, and everyone is equal. And, as I've previously admitted, it can't be successful in the real world, because there are those that won't work. I know this. But capitalism isn't the answer. There has to be a medium between the two that allows those that are able to go to work and get ahead, and helps those that CAN'T work to survive. Yet you conservatives do everything in your power to help big corporations not have to pull their fair share in society. You cut taxes for them. You look the other way when they pull an Enron. (Why have these guys STILL not gone to jail, may I ask you?) You hand them grant after fund after tax break, and what do they do? Lay people off, build factories in Mexico, vote themselves a fat payraise, and use loopholes in the tax code. That's not capitalism, that's theft from their own countrymen!
The whole idea and concept of America was everyone is on an even footing and treated equally in the eyes of the law. Anyone can be successful in America. All you have to do is work hard and take advantage of the oppurtunities the country has to offer.
Tell that to the people in Flint Michigan. I'm sure they'd LOVE to tell you about their plant closings, and how those jobs went to Mexico.
You can become a millioniare or a lazy deadbeat. The choice is up to the individual in America.
Yeah, and I'm sure those people that lost their entire life savings and retirement funds in the Enron fiasco are REALLY happy that they now have nothing to live on. They sure chose THAT path, because, you know, they WANTED to work until they were 75. Isn't that the American dream??
That's freedom. I feel sorry for you because you don't understand that. I know immigrants who understand this very clearly and the sad thing is you were born here.
As racist a statement as anything I've read on this board. So, there are SOME immigrants that came to America to be lazy deadbeats? Of course there are, but there are thousands of lazy deadbeats that were born here too. They're called teenagers.
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(sorry, a little humor to lighten things up.)
If you love communism and socialism so much.... There are a number of workers paradises around the globe that you can freely move to. Why stay here and complain about our system if it sucks that much?
Again with this "If you don't agree with us, go away" conservative argument. You know who else said this? The Nazis.
You conservatives need to get over it and take a look at what you're doing to the world. Are you leaving it a better place? Looking around, I'd say you're not. I'd say you're all laying waste to everything around you, and it's going to take years to repair the damage done by Bush.
You are the one who is misguided, not I. I'm here debating you. I feel sorry for you actually.
Well, pity me all you want, but I'm the one that's educated.