The Arabs have been attacking Israel since the Allies carved out a "homeland" for the Jews in 1948. They went from being ruled by the Ottoman Empire, to the British Empire, to having a bunch of displaced foreigners given the keys to their land by outside powers. Personally, I would have been a little pissed myself.
What complete horseshit. The Jews have been there forever in various amounts and places. They also turned much of what is Israel today into the place it is. They BOUGHT a lot of the land from absentee landowners at outrageous prices, and turned it into livable space. It was desert before they bought it, and made it into something worthwhile. There has never been a Palestinian country, and Palestinians aren't an ethnic group.
These religious zealots actually lived side by side with the Jews until the Brits fucked the whole thing up. They took 80% of the land, turned it into Jordan, put a foreign monarch in charge, and allowed them to kick out all the Jews that lived there. Then they decided the rest should be split between the Jews and 'Palestinians'.
This was well before 1948. The two-state solution came out of the now defunct League of Nations. Of course the Brits put a terrorist in charge of the remaining land, who worked with Hitler to kill as many of them as they could. He planned to set up camps in Israel at some point. He of course was never able to do this, because he ended up having to hide from the hangman's noose in Egypt after WW2.
This monster is viewed as a Palestinian 'national hero', and Arafat called him uncle. So please don't try to feed us this line of Zionist oppression bullshit. We aren't all idiots.
Now it has become the quagmire we have today. Religious zealots fighting a war in the name of their god, against not only the Zionists, but the entire western world.
You too are obviously an anti-Semitic piece of garbage. You sure as hell have the talking points down if you aren't.
The middle east has not known true peace.....ever, only occupying powers, dictators, and kings. That is not going to change until the next generations of people are taught tolerance instead of hatred (so not in my lifetime), or everyone gets turned to glass in a nuclear fire.
What region of the world has known 'true peace'? The only established democracy in the area is Israel, yet you blame them for the problems caused by the tyrants.
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The US had its hand in the formation of Israel, not out of some righteous need to do right by the Jews, but because none of the the allied powers wanted an influx of millions of Jewish refugees into their respective countries after WWII. So they offered them the "Holy Land" some of them wanted. They just failed to mention that somebody else was living there.
Again, complete bullshit. Put the Chomsky down and step away from the keyboard.
Times change, I realize that, after all our own Manifest Destiny was nothing but a land grab for a growing county. However, I have no desire to fight a war for a spot of land that has no meaning for me whatsoever. Unfortunately, if we just let them fight it out, we still have to deal with whichever side wins. That sure sounds appealing.
Yeah, because democratic people defending themselves are the same thing as terrorists who blow themselves up at prayer meetings and restaurants.
You want to call me an "anti-war hippie", or an "anti-semite" then so be it. Your arrogance means nothing to me.
Not to sure what arrogance has to do with this really.
What does mean something to me is the fact that the US has now become the new occupying power in the middle east. No good deed goes unpunished.
Allah al Akbhar! :rolleyes:
I don't believe in Isolationism, but dammit, does the US have to try to be the self-righteous savior to every area of the world that hates us? Spreading peace and democracy worldwide, whether you want it or not. We are the new Roman Empire, and our days of dominance in a world that despises us are numbered.
Bwahahahahah! What garbage. Bring it hippie. You guys go ahead and team up with the terrorists and let's see who wins. Bring your drums for the tofu potluck!
We were attacked first. Hell we even helped the attackers defend themselves against the Soviet Union, and then they got offended that we kicked an invading tyrant out of Kuwait, never mind that the entire world agreed it was the right thing to do, and decided we were the new enemy. Forget that we actually sacrificed our own lives to defend Muslims in the Middle East and Europe. Kill Whitey!
So you keep on defending them, thankfully the brave Israeli soldiers, and the fighting men of the US Armed Forces will keep on killing them so that you will continue to be able to disparage them from your comfy chair.
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