Xterrarob04, I am still relativley new at this but I have know since I was 16 and started driving you don't get pulled out by your axle ... yes you did fuck up (big time [Spit] ) and yes you do obviously suck at off raoding until you get more experienced ... the boys are a little short with noob's who do stupid things and can't take critisicm ... so just take it like a man and learn from it ... [Finger] [Wave]