OK, let me go through each of these things...

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Originally posted by NY Madman:
You are talking more bullshit. There was no such thing as a Palestinian until Yassar Arafat and his buddies invented them.
From Websters:
Palestine: former country bordering on the Mediterranean on W & Dead Sea on E; a part of the Ottoman Empire 1516-1917, a British mandate 1923-48; now approximately coextensive with Israel with Arab Palestinians in the West Bank having limited self-rule since 1993.

So yes, Palestine, and hence, Palestinians, have been in existence for a LONG time. Maybe not YOUR definition of one.

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Secondly the land there was always Jewish. For thousands of years. The Muslims weren't in existance until what.. the seventh century. Then they went on a slaughter spree of conversion. Later becoming the Ottoman Empire which fell.
From dictionary.com: Occupied since prehistoric times, it has been ruled by Hebrews, Egyptians, Romans, Byzantines, Arabs, and Turks.

It's not always been Jewish.

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I only wish you liberals attributed the same standards of modern Christian missionaries to the sword wielding Muslim conquerers of old. One of Islam's core tenets is the hatred and destruction of Jews from day one. Infidels like Christians would become "dhimi's".
I never actually said who was right and who was wrong. I plainly stated, "That's how the Palestinians view it."

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And by your standards of modern countries taking land and not giving it back... Israel obtained the West Bank and Gaza through wars. If the US does not have to give back land we won in wars (Texas Independance), why should Israel? Does anti-semitism validate double standards?Especially when hordes of hostile people have moved there after the land was won.
Right. And Israel was taken by others long ago. But it was not taken back by Palestine or the arabs. It was taken back by your favorite organization, the UN.

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You are perpetuating the liberal mores of double standards(and anti-semitism maybe without realizing it).
Again, I never said who was right or wrong.

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You obviously don't know much of the timeline of Israel and the so-called Palestinians.
I don't know much, no. I will freely admit that. Apparently you are the expert. I do know that Israel ceased to exist as a country in 70 AD.

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Don't hide behind the "I have friends who are Jews" bullshit. It's an old lie and exactly what I said.. it's bullshit.
OK, I'll give you that. I erred in using that. It's the equivalent of saying, "I'm not against blacks, I have friends who are black." That being said, would an anti-semite go to a Friday night Jewish service? Would an anti-semite attend Bar Mitzvahs? Would an anti-semite wear a yalmulke in the temple? I know I'm not anti-semite, my friends know I'm not. That's enough for me.

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Liberals are always quick to pull that. Let me see you pull the same crap you espouse here in a synagogue. You would be run out on your ass.
Actually, I have had the discussion with my friends dad, who is "extreme" Jewish (for lack of a better description). He even goes so far as to refuse to by any German auto (even though he can more than afford one).

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The self loathing liberal Jews that think like you are apostates who never go to temple and who don't give a shit about their own.
Like I said...I never said who was right or wrong. I merely put out a hypothetical situation.

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You remind me of the people who claim The Holocaust never happened and those who deny Stalin's purges of millions never happened either.
And yet it's the extreme right wingers who think that. (And we all know I'm FAR from that.)

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The destruction of Israel is happening before your eyes and you are denying it and making excuses. That is either anti-semitism or ignorance. I'd like to know which side you are on. It does seem obvious...
It's not obvious. I agree with Claus. They BOTH need to get their acts together. It's a vicious cycle. One attacks. On retailates. The other retailiates. At least they got their act together in Northern Ireland (somewhat, anyway...it's still in progress). It's to the point where I'd wager most of the younger Arabs and Israelis don't even know the real reason they are fighting. Arabs are taught at a young age to hate Jews. I dare say a lot of Israelis are taught the same thing.
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