Yeah, but I'll still take my Cherokee over an Explorer any day of the week. I for one don't hate IFS, but it does not fit my style of driving. I am a right laner so on road, solid feels pretty much the same to me, and offroad, I have seen a couple of instances, plus been in a couple where solid definitely won out of IFS. For the level of offroading that I am at now, IFS/Solid doesn't make a differenc, but as I get more comfortable, I am finding that the harder obstacles are more fun, and less dangerous in a rig that is solid front and rear.....