I've got a brush guard with a bullbar main. It was explained to me in an early post of my X of the how and why they are "damage multipliers". Unfortunately my brush guard is a one piece construction so I can't remove the friggin' "wings" that cause the most damage. Darn... guess I'm gonna have to go with a full on Shrockworks bumper now If I didn't have my KC lights set up on my brushguard already then I would take the whole thing off. Plus they also limit your entry and exit angles when you're climbing.