Thanks Bios, good link. As I said before, let's hope it's "SRS" and not "$R$", I'll feel like a tool if I wait for it and it comes out at $2499 or something.

ALSO, whether or not they are trying to give us more options, or maybe that are just trying to drive us crazy, I have now found info on a DDX-6017. This is not listed on the Kenwood page's 2005 Excelon document. But here\'s some guy selling it on eBay. . Mayhaps it's the 8017 minus the SRS?

The eBay/Real Life price ratio to me seems like the 6017 would be around $1399 or so (I've been looking at these things on eBay for a long time). Anyone heard of this?

Also, to answer the iPod questions, although it would be my dream system that allowed you to directly plug in your iPod (via the data port, *not* the headphone/amp), I don't think such an animal exists yet. When we bicker over "iPod interface" I think we're just talking how easy it is to operate the pod through the head unit. Someone correct me if I am wrong!