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Thanks for the reply. The eclipse units do seem pretty good, and I've found a few forums where people have then and love them. No major complaints at all which is a first. From what I understand using the Aux input does not degrade the sound quality at all, is that correct. It just means you have to control it thru the ipod instead of the HU, correct? If so, maybe that's something i can live with.
Looking at their web site they do not show a list of dealers and the usual stores don't seem to have them either. I guess you have to go to a car stereo only store to get them?