Hey court23; that's some awesome info. I don't know if the site said I had any Eclipse dealers (one of the reaons they've kind of been on my back burner) but the HDD thing sounds mighty awesome. A question though: how do you get your 30gB worth of music onto the unit? I wouldn't have the patience to re-rip all my discs, and that'd have to be one long firewire cable to make it into my bedroom! But that sounds indeed awesome.

The true turn-off is the price; that's basically to me like buying one of the other units we've been talking about (DDX-8017 + Nav unit from Kenwood on eBay is "only" $1985) plus $100 for the iPod adapter and still enough left over to buy two iPods. If I didn't already pay $400 bucks for my iPod, I'd be more gung-ho about it, but I don't mind bringing the 'pod with me.