I more than likely won't be showing up for Hayward in Oct. I just have too many irons in the fire for this month. I am sure the temps are going be in the twenties also at night. I will make up for it though. Next May, I am going to Hayward for a week. Have fun guys, take lots of pictures.

Chris there is a post I did above with the info. Oct. 26 they close all parks. They told me you can camp, but no toilet paper. laugh