Just wanted to be clear... i was not slamming scottsdale per se. i love it, its is one of the most beautiful places to live... however one of my reasons for moving from socal was attitude... there was very definately a difference the two weeks we live din chandler with reletives... then we moved to scottsdale and were a bit surprised. does not chaneg the fact that scottsdale is a great town and when i move back to the valley i would definately visit, i just dont want to live there again.
BTW i lived in scottsdale worked in tempe... my wife worked in mesa... after living in CA... the words Traffic and AZ dont belong in the same sentence

and the scary thing is its only getting worse here