Oh I'm sure the tresspassing fine actually might hurt your wallet... But the destruction form off roading is not even worth the time it takes to write the tickets.

I guess this will be an adventure for me that hopefully can carry over to other areas as well. I know at Saguaro Lake, Walley and I found several abandond and burnt cars... My rig is completely capible of dragging them out of there... but I would do more damage winching them up the hills and towing the carcases that I would just looking the other way... It's sad. BTW... If anyone is interested in dragging cars off a trail I'll help.

Ted... Thanks for hunting that down... I know this area was not on the "list" of avalible areas... But maybe some b!tch!n might get it added.

It would also help those of us that are being good to know when a trail is considered for closer and why before the decision is made... I'm sure we could do alot to delay a closer if given the opertunity.

Though some areas... It's hard to help... I did 5 truck loads and two runs with the winch out on Table Mesa with VirtualJeep awhile back... And you couldn't even tell I was there.

With the hoildays so far we have only gotten voice mail... So hopefully in the next week we might be able to get a human on the phone.

Adam... Where would I find rager station info for a national monumnet in the middle of the desert? The best I found was the BLM manager listed in the artical so far.

Thanks for the help guys... Hopefully some good could come from this.

-Randy