LOL, we should all be so happy to get a quarterback with a 60 QB rating. :rolleyes: I'm glad he showed up in "one" quarter for the first time in his 8 starts, but he still has a looonnnnngggg way to go. Same with Leinart who still had better numbers than Vince yesterday. That's expected though for both of them. I don't think I heard anyone say that Vince wouldn't survive in the NFL, he just has a big learning curve compared to the rest and will take about 2 years to be a good quarterback. They said that Cutler had the lowest learning curve, so we'll see if he is the real deal this week.