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#42142 - 10/07/04 03:31 PM clutch interlock cancel control
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hi. i was looking at some old car magazines and i read that the early-mid 90's nissan 4x4 trucks with manual transmisions have a clutch interlock cancel control which allows the driver to not have to press the clutch when starting the car. this is helpful on uphill starts. i was wondering if anybody knows if the 2004 Xterra 4x4 with manual transmission has this clutch interlock cancel control? what about other nissan trucks and SUV's??

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#42143 - 10/07/04 03:58 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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#42144 - 10/07/04 04:28 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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You can shell out the bucks for the Coolerman kit, or if you like, just put a simple momentary switch in parallel to the switch that's under the clutch pedal. Cheaper, simpler, but does require that you be more aware when using it.
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#42145 - 10/07/04 05:25 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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Shell out the bucks ? Cheap bastard.
Coolerman's kit is of exceptional quality and well worth the money.
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#42146 - 10/07/04 07:15 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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I have to agree Ian, all of Coolerman's Coolkits are done right. Here is a link to his site: http://www.globalsoftware-inc.com/coolerman/CoolKit1CIBS.htm
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#42147 - 10/07/04 08:06 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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No doubt, I agree, his stuff is great (I've got his reverse light kit myself) but I consider the CIBS to be massive overkill.
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#42148 - 10/07/04 08:38 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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No doubt, I agree, his stuff is great (I've got his reverse light kit myself) but I consider the CIBS to be massive overkill.
Yeah, but you're usually wrong. When stalled on a hill, a simple jab with my finger, and I'm restarted in gear and on my way. How is that massive overkill ?
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#42149 - 10/07/04 09:09 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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And a simple switch in parallel with the one under the clutch pedal will do the same thing, which is all they had in the older Hardbody/Pathfinder days.
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#42150 - 11/07/04 12:54 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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How is that massive overkill ?
Relays? LEDs? I believe Brent is trying to say that anything more than a parallel off the switch is a little much for such a simply operation.

The CIBS is cool and all but my solution involved one switch, two wires, and doing solder taps to the clutch switch wires (I HATE wire taps).

Cost me $5 and looks almost factory.

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#42151 - 11/07/04 05:25 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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You can also just take your left shoe off, and wiggle your big toe up in there and hold down the switch.
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#42152 - 11/07/04 09:03 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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Har har...
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#42153 - 14/07/04 01:36 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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Shell out the bucks ? Cheap bastard.
Coolerman's kit is of exceptional quality and well worth the money.
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#42154 - 14/07/04 02:19 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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Originally posted by xoc:
You can also just take your left shoe off, and wiggle your big toe up in there and hold down the switch.
[Spit]
i have to try this one...

is there anyway to just disable it permanently? tape it down or something?

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#42155 - 14/07/04 06:09 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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Of course, but it will bite you in the ass one of these days. I'd just bridge the switch with some wire rather than physically tape the switch down or something if you were game...
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#42156 - 14/07/04 06:20 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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IMHO, taping and clamping the switch is a good semi permanent way of bypassing it. Be aware of the ramifications of doing so! I am, for the most part, the only driver, and therefor comfortable with this set up. It works great when you need to start on hills...or any other time for that matter when you're in low range.
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#42157 - 15/07/04 07:55 AM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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The easiest is the k_enn mod. First, I removed the clutch interlock switch from its backet under the clutch pedal. Then I just took a wire nut (those conical plastic nuts that electricians use to join wires) that was of sufficient size to screw down on the threads of the clutch interlock switch. (The wire nut may require a little trimming at the opening to get rid of excess material). Screw it down over the clutch interlock switch so it closes the circuit. If the wire nut is too deep so that it does not depress the switch sufficiently, just screw an allen head screw into the wire nut to take up any excess space. Total cost is nothing if you have the material on hand, or probably fifty cents if you have to go to a hardware store.

This means that as long a the wire nut is in place the clutch will not need to be depressed to start. I am the only driver so it does not matter. (Also, my previous cars did not have a clutch interlock, so I am used to starting with the clutch depressed and/or the vehicle in neutral).

This modification does offer one advantage in terms of security. When I need to park in area of potential car theft, I simply reach down and unscrew the wire nut. Since the clutch interlock switch was not remounted in its backet (constant hitting of the wire nut by the clutch pedal might damage the wire nut), with the wire nut removed the starter will not turn regardless of whether the clutch is depressed.

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#42158 - 15/07/04 10:07 AM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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This modification does offer one advantage in terms of security. When I need to park in area of potential car theft, I simply reach down and unscrew the wire nut. Since the clutch interlock switch was not remounted in its backet (constant hitting of the wire nut by the clutch pedal might damage the wire nut), with the wire nut removed the starter will not turn regardless of whether the clutch is depressed.

k_enn
Hey, that's nifty!

By the way, what color wire nut did you use?

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#42159 - 15/07/04 11:08 AM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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By the way, what color wire nut did you use?[/QB]
I used black, it was what I had on hand, and also makes the modification not readily noticeable.

k_enn

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#42160 - 15/07/04 04:53 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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For those with cruise control, won't disableing the CIS, not allow your cruise control to work? Seems to me if you touch the clutch while using cruise control, it turns it off. How would this affect the cruise control operation? confused
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#42161 - 15/07/04 05:06 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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That's a good point; if it does disable the CC, then I suppose you'd have to unscrew the wire nut before the roadtrip....

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#42162 - 15/07/04 05:34 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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The two are not related
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#42163 - 15/07/04 07:10 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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The two are not related
No kidding?
I'm curious, then: what happens when you depress the clutch when the vehicle is operating on cruise control?
(Not that I particularly want to try this [Uh Oh !] )

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#42164 - 15/07/04 08:21 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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I did just try it. Nothing happens. Cruising along at 50 mph(w/ cruise on), I depressed the clutch and began to slow.( cruise was, as is standard, in standby mode now) I pressed the resume button and began to come back up to speed. This was after starting the truck using the CIBS too. No problemo. [Smoking]

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#42165 - 15/07/04 10:01 PM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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There is a second switch at the top of the pedal's travel. This one works the cruise control. The clutch-start interlock switch we are talking about is at the bottom of the pedal's travel.
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#42166 - 16/07/04 08:05 AM Re: clutch interlock cancel control
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Right, separate switch for the cruise.
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