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Originally posted by TJ:
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Originally posted by JeffW:
[b]Around here they call them "suicide shackles"......
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Point by Point:

1. I've heard of them breaking on the trails - I've heard of regular shackles breaking on the trails, and regular leaf springs, and regular shocks, etc.
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Yup. They just break a lot more frequently when you stress them out with revolver shackles.

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Originally posted by TJ:

2. They make a vehical slightly more prone to rollovers ....
Good, you agree. If a rexolver shackle disengages in an extreme situation, it could be the "straw that broke the camels back" for the rollover. Each side of the suspension holds up at least 150# worth of suspension parts. I wouldn't want to lose 150# from my uphill side in that scenario.

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Originally posted by TJ:

3. They put extra twist on the springs fucking up the hangers - They do the opposite, as they swivel, taking the stress OFF OF THE HANGERS, by letting the leaf move, instead of the leaf torquing against the hanger as happens with a regular shackle.(Which is HOW regular shackles tend to break)
You need to take a look under your truck before you reply. Clearly you are confused about what you've got installed.

Your spring hangers are in front of your axle. The more you flex your axle, the more your axle torques the springs and hangers. Destroying the hangers is something that I know has happened to folks. I believe there is a thread on this forum right now of somebody who ruined their spring hangers while using revolver shackles.

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Originally posted by TJ:

4. They only give extra droop, but don't support the extra weight - When ANY SUSPENSION DROOPS, the tire is dropping because of the weight of the axle/tire, etc...and its not holding the truck up if its drooping....droop is dropping by gravity....if the tire drops away from the truck, its not holding the truck up...that's WHY a regular shackle swings to add articulation, and WHY a shackle gives better wheel travel/off road performance than an AAL, etc.....
And that is the bottom line. Every leaf setup has a "dynamic range". The last inch or so of flex is not really useful because the tire has no grip. Revolver shackles do nothing but add to the "useless" range to your flex. They are really neat "redneck bling", but I have yet to meet a serious offroader who is still using them. Many have tried them and then decided that the cons outweigh the pros.

TJ can write another book endorsing what's on his truck, but the internet is not the place to get this information. I recommend that you go to your local hardcore 4x4 shop and ask those guys. The product of revolver shackles are universally denounced by all three offroad shops that I know of in Co Springs. I agree 100% because of the experiences I've seen folks have with that product.