Jeff, your face reminds me of redneck bling. Seriously though, I have been trying to keep an open mind on both arguements. But you know what, I'm already running them and only time will tell if they roll me or F'up my spring hangers. As for traction, I guess I won't know since I am running alcan spring packs and a detroit in the rear. Even if it doesn't add traction, it is keeping me stable and they were the only alternative at the moment to match the flex up front.