Porsche -

What are you NOW saying discusses GRADUAL loss in weighting as the Revolver unfolds...

When you explained the physics the FIRST TIME, you said the SECOND IT STARTED TO UNFOLD IT WAS UNWEIGHTED.

NOW you say its losing weight as it goes down, NOT that its unweighted as soon as it unfolds.

You have NOT addressed the fact that the leaf spring is pulling the axle UP at the end of its droop travel..NOT pushing it down..the droop is FIGHTING the leaf at the end...meaning LESS weight on the tire at the end of droop, NOT MORE.

You are also ignoring that the Leaves' DOWN FORCE ITSELF is dropping, afterall...the leaf can support the full weight of the truck ONLY at ride height, and Less and Less as the tire drops....so the leaf is providing less and less down force...and, frankly...as soon as it hits the neutral point (regular shackle rattle...)...it is SUBTRACTING downforce, NOT adding it.

IE: You still think the leaf is the only traction weight.

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You ALSO have NOT explained WHY THE REGULAR LIFT SHACKLE SLIPPED FIRST.

I understand the frictional proportions you listed, and understand the thoretical nature of the discussion....

....but you still have not accounted for all that's going on...and that's why you don't get it yet....and why you don't have a good explaination for why the Revolver did not slip when you said it would, and why the regular shackle DID slip BEFORE the Revolver did.

I know you can't see this yet...and that you even think its me who can't see your point...but I see your point...and raise THIS ONE:

AGAIN - the actual coefficient was the SAME, the only variable was the shackle....so - You say its because the weight required to keep from slipping on a lower coefficient of friction surface would be greater, which is true, but, its still proportional...

....and - As you claim the revolver unfolds and loses tire weighting...you never explained how you went from zero as soon as its unfolded, to the DEGREE of unfolding changing the tire weighting...yet...the "Physics" you were quoting claimed that the second it unfolded, there was no weight....

....and that there was only weight when the shackle was folded...

Two excercises to illustrate - Trying to solve these may bring it to light:

...How would a 1/4 unfolded shackle support more weight than a 3/4 unfolded shackle, etc? (This is the part where you think the bee can't fly.)

....and explain:

"Why the shackle with the best traction would slip FIRST" - as this is your NEW PREMISE.

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PS - and why do the people who HAVE revolvers NOT have the trouble your Myth would indicate?
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- TJ

2001 Xterra '03 VG33, SE 5 spd, 305/70/16's, Revolvers, UBSkidderz, Doubled AAL's, 3"SL/2"BL, winch/bumpers, skids, sliders, OBA, Snorkel, pine stripes....

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