You state that the revolvers provide droop, but that the drooped tire has no traction compared to a regular lift shackle.
Dude, you're arguing a revolver vs. reg. shackle. I'm arguing revolver vs. flexy leaf pack...
Don't believe that's my arguement? Let me cut/paste a few of my posts so far:
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If you want better articulation, invest in a full spring pack.
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1) if you want flex, buy a better leaf pack.
So let's look at my recommended advice: get a real leaf spring that can flex to the limits you're wanting.
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Which is why I say get a real spring pack that gives you the same flex point as what the revolver will get you, if you really feel you need that much flex.
IF YOU WANT FLEX WITH TRACTION, GET A REAL LEAF PACK. IF YOU WANT FLEX FOR AN RTI RAMP, USE REVOLVERS.
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If you go back to the beginning, I was comparing flex/grip with a revolver vs. a real leaf pack that gives equivalent suspension travel. Nobody in their right mind would try to compare travel you get with a regular shackle vs. a revolver... Duh, of course the revolver has more travel...that's sort of their purpose in life, isn't it?
And just in case... I'll add some more...
TJ: we aren't comparing a revolver shackle to a stock suspension setup. At least, I'm not. You seem to be. I don't know why. What we are comparing is 2 different ways of adding travel to the suspension, revolvers, or a new flexy leaf pack. Of the two ways to get more travel, 1 way (revolvers) results in significantly less traction than the other. Period.
To answer 56kz2slow, yes, as long as a tire is on the ground, it gets "some" traction. However, as I stated from the very beginning, as soon as the revolver opens up, it is not enough traction to still move the rig. 56k, you've got the idea of how a revolver works. What I thought TJ and I were arguing at the beginning was how much traction is enough to make the truck move.
I didn't realize until a few pages ago that he was comparing revolvers to regular shackles, without changing the leaf pack... He missed my point from the very start of the thread.
I also didn't realize at the start I needed to qualify that statement, and say we were talking about OFFROAD, aka, dirt... I assumed that was a given, but I guess that was too much to assume...