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You state that the revolvers provide droop, but that the drooped tire has no traction compared to a regular lift shackle.
Dude, you're arguing a revolver vs. reg. shackle. I'm arguing revolver vs. flexy leaf pack...

Don't believe that's my arguement? Let me cut/paste a few of my posts so far:

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If you want better articulation, invest in a full spring pack.
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1) if you want flex, buy a better leaf pack.
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So let's look at my recommended advice: get a real leaf spring that can flex to the limits you're wanting.
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Which is why I say get a real spring pack that gives you the same flex point as what the revolver will get you, if you really feel you need that much flex.
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IF YOU WANT FLEX WITH TRACTION, GET A REAL LEAF PACK. IF YOU WANT FLEX FOR AN RTI RAMP, USE REVOLVERS.
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If you go back to the beginning, I was comparing flex/grip with a revolver vs. a real leaf pack that gives equivalent suspension travel. Nobody in their right mind would try to compare travel you get with a regular shackle vs. a revolver... Duh, of course the revolver has more travel...that's sort of their purpose in life, isn't it?
And just in case... I'll add some more...

TJ: we aren't comparing a revolver shackle to a stock suspension setup. At least, I'm not. You seem to be. I don't know why. What we are comparing is 2 different ways of adding travel to the suspension, revolvers, or a new flexy leaf pack. Of the two ways to get more travel, 1 way (revolvers) results in significantly less traction than the other. Period.

To answer 56kz2slow, yes, as long as a tire is on the ground, it gets "some" traction. However, as I stated from the very beginning, as soon as the revolver opens up, it is not enough traction to still move the rig. 56k, you've got the idea of how a revolver works. What I thought TJ and I were arguing at the beginning was how much traction is enough to make the truck move.

I didn't realize until a few pages ago that he was comparing revolvers to regular shackles, without changing the leaf pack... He missed my point from the very start of the thread.

I also didn't realize at the start I needed to qualify that statement, and say we were talking about OFFROAD, aka, dirt... I assumed that was a given, but I guess that was too much to assume...