Yes. I'm sure it is very frustrating. The mentally ill patient usually will become very frustrated upon realizing they can't convince their doctors that they are truly Joan of Arc reincarnated.

I have no doubt you're frustrated. Because you're still thinking of this as a "plane on the treadmill" type of question, without ever considering the option that the plane shouldn't ever be on the treadmill in the first place...it just doesn't make sense how it could have gotten there... Some things just don't make sense. Planes on treadmills, reincarnated mental patients, and revolver shackles.

You can justify them until you're blue in the face, but at the end of the day, it's either craziness, or math that proves you wrong every time. I have no emotional involvement in Revolvers, because I didn't drop $200 on them. I don't have to legitimize their use because I spent money on them. I've been looking at them from purely a physics standpoint, and even proved some of my own thoughts/theories about them wrong once I did the math. But the point is, I did the math. And I showed you why they CAN'T work like you're saying they "do".

Yes, you have a plane on a treadmill. Of that we will both agree. The difference is, I believe the plane had no business on the treadmill in the first place, because there's a much more rational, proven method of taking off than putting a gimmick on and seeing what'll happen.

(Say hello to God for me next time he speaks to you, btw. He (or she) aren't on speaking terms right at the moment. Dude owes me $5 on a bet he lost. Dumbarse said the plane couldn't take off, and once I proved it to him, the bastage just picked it up by it's tail, dropped it to the ground, and said, "See, I told you so.". I haven't talked to him since.)