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#444251 - 24/10/06 02:18 AM how do I trace an IP
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I have tried a few websites that offer free services but am trying to locate someone by an IP. Someone got my debit card number and used it a couple of times and trying to pin down that someone.

I think I have it located to Gurnee Illinois.

67.175.153.182
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#444252 - 24/10/06 02:25 AM Re: how do I trace an IP
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sometimes I try and do a ping on the Unix system I have access to.. this is what it returned.

ICMP Host Unreachable from gateway **.**.***.**
for icmp from unix2 (***.***.**.*) to c-67-175-153-182.hsd1.il.comcast.net (67.175.153.182)

So it is a comcast.net account.. You could prob contact Comcast and show then whatever proof you have and see if they can help you at all..

ETA using a few searches on Google I was able to trace it down to Springfield IL. So it looks likes you close...

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#444253 - 24/10/06 02:27 AM Re: how do I trace an IP
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yeah I am trying to get to them now. Waiting on their online que thingy
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#444254 - 24/10/06 02:32 AM Re: how do I trace an IP
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right.. I can't imagine that many people being up to call them this early..

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#444255 - 24/10/06 03:12 AM Re: how do I trace an IP
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I just got through. I was 19 on the list lol
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#444256 - 24/10/06 03:21 AM Re: how do I trace an IP
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And of course they are no help.
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#444257 - 24/10/06 06:41 AM Re: how do I trace an IP
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They wont divulge that info unless you involve the police, and even then, if you're lucky.

Shame, I hate theives.

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#444258 - 24/10/06 06:42 AM Re: how do I trace an IP
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You'll need a subpoena in order to get any info from the ISP. We do investigations all the time that almost always hit a roadblock at the end-user's ISP. They are usually very reluctant to even look at the problem until they have a legal document in their hands. About the only time we get lucky is when the other party is another educational institution. They seem to be more willing to help us. At least in your case the ISP is in the US. When you deal with overseas companies, you can forget about it.

Have you reported the incident to abuse@comcast.net? Typically ISPs have completely separate departments to handle security incidents. The general call center techs will be useless in this situation.

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#444259 - 24/10/06 07:38 AM Re: how do I trace an IP
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hi,

Make sure you document well the date/time the card was wrongfully used and amounts. Since most ISP use DHCP, the date/time is really important because the IP that guy has today may not be the one he has tomorrow.

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#444260 - 24/10/06 09:36 AM Re: how do I trace an IP
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Quote:
Originally posted by Paul H:
I have tried a few websites that offer free services but am trying to locate someone by an IP. Someone got my debit card number and used it a couple of times and trying to pin down that someone.

I think I have it located to Gurnee Illinois.

67.175.153.182
Having been a victim of Identify Theft, I'd advise you to cancel ALL of your cards ASAP. One time a dude stole my wallet and within a few hours he'd created a fake driver's license with his picture and my name, and then opened a cell phone account in "my" name. These assholes can do a lot of damage with just a tiny bit of information.

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#444261 - 24/10/06 09:40 AM Re: how do I trace an IP
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Quote:
Originally posted by Paul H:
I have tried a few websites that offer free services but am trying to locate someone by an IP. Someone got my debit card number and used it a couple of times and trying to pin down that someone.

I think I have it located to Gurnee Illinois.

67.175.153.182
An ISP wont give you this information due to privacy issues. They only way they will give it up is with a subpoena. You will need to file a report with the police or a district attorney and they can get a subpoena and prosecute the individual.

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#444262 - 24/10/06 08:38 PM Re: how do I trace an IP
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Quote:
Originally posted by PDXterra:
Quote:
Originally posted by Paul H:
[b]I have tried a few websites that offer free services but am trying to locate someone by an IP. Someone got my debit card number and used it a couple of times and trying to pin down that someone.

I think I have it located to Gurnee Illinois.

67.175.153.182
Having been a victim of Identify Theft, I'd advise you to cancel ALL of your cards ASAP. One time a dude stole my wallet and within a few hours he'd created a fake driver's license with his picture and my name, and then opened a cell phone account in "my" name. These assholes can do a lot of damage with just a tiny bit of information.[/b]
Yeah already did that.

And being a police officer I was expecting them to need a court order was just trying to contact them to see what I needed to do with them. They were dicks.
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#444263 - 25/10/06 09:42 AM Re: how do I trace an IP
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Damn, Paul... First the truck and now this. Bad streak of luck there, bud.

Let us at MXO know if you ever come up this way, we'll go for a few [drink]

And thanks again for the rack!

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#444264 - 25/10/06 05:31 PM Re: how do I trace an IP
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Originally posted by 56kz2slow:
Since most ISP use DHCP, the date/time is really important because the IP that guy has today may not be the one he has tomorrow.
Yup, because ISP\'s keep accurate records [Uh Oh !]

Sucks man - I wish you luck, but as others pointed out you are probably SOL without a subpoena..
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#444265 - 24/11/06 05:15 PM Re: how do I trace an IP
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Sorry for jumping so late in this thread, haven't time to check the board lately.

Ask them how long they keep those record. Sometimes it can be only a few days, up to 2 years if your lucky. So check if they still have those records. And no matter how long they say they will keep the records, ask them to freeze them until proper paperwork comes in. Most of the ISP I deal with will keep the record for a month if I ask them.
Although it only takes me an afternoon to writes a warrant and get it sworn.

You did advise your bank of the fraudulent use ? Usually bank will help you more than police can. And they will cancel any cards that might have been cloned.

Also, keep a watchfull eye on your credit report for the next few weeks.
Well FOREVER actually, ALL OF YOU !.

As for IP tracing, I usually use dnsstuff.com

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#444266 - 24/11/06 06:37 PM Re: how do I trace an IP
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If you are on a Windows system, using tracert usually does the trick, too.
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#444267 - 25/11/06 08:17 AM Re: how do I trace an IP
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Having worked in the Domain industry for a few years, a real good tool for tracing an IP down to the ISP level and the area of the country the user is in is: http://www.dnsstuff.com/ Lots of different tools on there.

The IPWHOIS Lookup will tell you who owns the IP i.e. Who to call with your Court Order.

The IP Information lookup will tell you where in the country it happened.

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#444268 - 27/11/06 09:58 PM Re: how do I trace an IP
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Originally posted by DobermanN:
Sorry for jumping so late in this thread, haven't time to check the board lately.

Ask them how long they keep those record. Sometimes it can be only a few days, up to 2 years if your lucky. So check if they still have those records. And no matter how long they say they will keep the records, ask them to freeze them until proper paperwork comes in. Most of the ISP I deal with will keep the record for a month if I ask them.
Although it only takes me an afternoon to writes a warrant and get it sworn.

You did advise your bank of the fraudulent use ? Usually bank will help you more than police can. And they will cancel any cards that might have been cloned.

Also, keep a watchfull eye on your credit report for the next few weeks.
Well FOREVER actually, ALL OF YOU !.

As for IP tracing, I usually use dnsstuff.com
Yeah I already advised the bank. I was able to contact the company that the charge was made on and it was credited. The card was cancelled and another was issued so I am out nothing really and it just isn't worth going through the hassle to go to court etc.

And I have the credit watch gold. I watch it like a hawk.
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#444269 - 06/12/06 09:19 PM Re: how do I trace an IP
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ARIN WHOIS might be able to help some. May not give you any info you don't already have though.
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