sorry i havnt been around for replys. yes the link for the 27 dollar one is what i was talking about. i should have linked it in the first place. and as was stated, using the inners from the stocker should allow it. Im in the process of moving right now to dallas fort worth area so i dont know if i could help too much on a group buy. if willyswan would wanna do it id be down to help or at least add myself to the buy list. Im taking my dog to the vet tomorrow and packing house stuff. if willy could call and maybe work out something that would be cool. or are we all going to wait for muzikman to get it and give the thumbs up?