I've stood my truck on both the front and back bumpers. The front on Fins-n-Things after driving off a 3' vertical shelf (thanks Andy ), and once while trying to get up a large rock blob here in AZ. I got the truck so far up, maybe 2-3' off the ground) and it started to buck as traction became scarce. When it hopped up, I fell too far down and momentum grabbed us (gravity sucks) and the truck hit the ground, teetered back onto the tire, and by the grace of G-D, it fell forward again back onto the rock I'd just fallen off of.. They're both Calmini and they both have protected the truck just as expected. As far as approach angles, I have climbed 70* rocks and had to hit it at an angle to get started, sure. But really Jeff, who else is out there going at it like that? There may be less than 7% of the people on XOC who wheel like you, TJ, or even me .. I like the look of the Shrockworks front, but hey :rolleyes: . If I got an '05, I'd spend my money with Calmini again because I know their stuff holds up to my abuse .