yea i think you sum it up well...who cares....not to bring this off topic, my buddies mom just bought a brand new 05 Taco with the TRD offroad package...prior to that she owned a Wrangler for 2-3 years, she was afraid to hit potholes with it, she was CONVICED it would destroy her suspension, it was in 4hi once and never got shifted to 4low, she wouldnt drive it in snow because she was afraid she would get stuck or something, now the same with her taco, refused to put stuff in the bed because it'll scratch it, i asked her if she would follow me down a dirt road with a couple small mud puddles (seriously like the size of a large pot hole) she started laughing saying haha "yea right, bring that thing (points to the taco) down a dirt road through mud and get it dinged and scratched, and break it, i dont think so, i dont beat the piss out of my vehicle like you do"...yea i beat the piss outta my x :rolleyes: i take it where it loves to be, off the pavement getting covered in mud