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#595942 - 27/05/08 09:02 PM Re: Cigarette prices
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I might be wrong, a trucker explained this to me a while back

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#595943 - 27/05/08 10:41 PM Re: Cigarette prices
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Yeah, many people here buy them from the Indian Reservations because they don't have to charge the same taxes. It is either tax free or really low taxes. I don't know the specifics, as I don't smoke. However, if I did smoke, I'd only buy them on the "res".

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#595944 - 27/05/08 11:09 PM Re: Cigarette prices
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Originally posted by Mobycat:
2. Those don't use American tobacco. Not a big deal to some, but others view anything else as an extremely weak substitute for American tobacco.
Weak as in inferior? Is there actually any tobacco in american tobacco anymore? I much prefer Marlboros made outside the US than the shit we get here now.

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#595945 - 28/05/08 01:03 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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Some Americans use tobacco from other countries, and some foreign tobacco companies use U.S. tobacco. Israeli military and prison cigs come from Virginia as an example

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#595946 - 28/05/08 03:25 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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I can get you cartons of Sumers for like $3. Don't worry, they're healthy as cigarettes go - made in Iraq, so you know they are good. What's a little fiberglass and camel dung?
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#595947 - 28/05/08 03:50 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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$4 and some change in Akron/Cleveland. Lately, they've had buy 2 get 1 on Camels. Although they charge full price so it's like $9.00 for three. Plus with the no smoking indoors law, that kind of saves too.

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#595948 - 28/05/08 04:32 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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I don't know about other states, but here in Virginia, as long as that pack has a stamp, be it Virginia or any other state, you are in the clear. Only unstamped cigarettes will get you in trouble.

Of course, since Virginia's tax is so low, I don't think they are too concerned about it...nobody is going to go out of state to buy cigarettes.

That being said, if you buy them over the internet, you are required to fill out a Consumer Cigarette Tax Return and pay the Virginia tax (1.5 cents per cigarette).[/QB]
Don't buy in SC then, our cigarettes are unstamped.....

Plus they are $3.15 a pack for the good stuff, $2.75 if you can smoke the generics.

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#595949 - 28/05/08 04:38 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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I'm surprised that this thread is smoker friendly unlike a lot of bars.... (those bars go out of business around here.)

I also didn't realize a lot of you smoked wink

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#595950 - 28/05/08 06:49 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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Originally posted by XterraAdam:
Quote:
Originally posted by Mobycat:
I don't know about other states, but here in Virginia, as long as that pack has a stamp, be it Virginia or any other state, you are in the clear. Only unstamped cigarettes will get you in trouble.

Of course, since Virginia's tax is so low, I don't think they are too concerned about it...nobody is going to go out of state to buy cigarettes.

That being said, if you buy them over the internet, you are required to fill out a Consumer Cigarette Tax Return and pay the Virginia tax (1.5 cents per cigarette).
Don't buy in SC then, our cigarettes are unstamped.....

Plus they are $3.15 a pack for the good stuff, $2.75 if you can smoke the generics.[/QB]
On a different but somewhat related note... SC's home of the lowest cigarette tax in the nation... a staggering $0.07. [Huh?]

Now there's legislation on the table right to increase it by $0.50 and that's creating quite a stir in these parts. By the looks of things it'll pass too.

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#595951 - 28/05/08 07:14 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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Originally posted by Mobycat:

I don't know about other states, but here in Virginia, as long as that pack has a stamp, be it Virginia or any other state, you are in the clear. Only unstamped cigarettes will get you in trouble.

Of course, since Virginia's tax is so low, I don't think they are too concerned about it...nobody is going to go out of state to buy cigarettes.
If you get caught transporting a lot of cigarettes into NY from another state.... even if the cigs have that other state's tax stamp.... you are going to be in trouble.

If it's only a couple of cartons, that is fine. If you have a trunkload or 30 cartons or something like that, you will be charged with a crime.

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#595952 - 28/05/08 07:22 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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Here is a bit of cigarette tax stamp trivia:

A number of years ago you used to be able to drive down New Jersey's Garden State Parkway without having to pay any tolls... as long as you had a pack of cigarettes with a NJ State tax stamp.

How it worked was.... you pulled into the automated toll booths with the coin collection baskets. Instead of throwing the coins into the basket, hold the pack of cigarettes up to the windshield with the tax stamp facing out. The toll light would turn green as if collected - similar to EZ PASS - and you would proceed on your way.

I haven't tried it in a number of years, so I don't know if it still works.

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#595953 - 28/05/08 08:06 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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AZ is pushing $5 per pack on Marlboros, but you can still go to the reservation stores and get a carton for about $38. The state taxes aren't applicable there.

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#595954 - 28/05/08 08:18 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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Out of curiosity, I looked up Florida's cigarette taxes.

33.9 cents per pack of twenty, which = 1.695 cents per pack.

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#595955 - 28/05/08 08:25 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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A law was passed uphere recently where stores are not allowed to display tobacco of any kind. a pack (I think) is about $6.70 You are not allowed to smoke anywhere.

Never been a smoker (besides the 30lbs of pot in College) My parents were both 2 packs a day smokers. My mother died after a 6 year battle with lung cancer due to Smoking at the age of 56.

Funny how socially unacceptable it has become. I was fishing this weekend with 10 other guys ONE smoker in the midst and he was almost outsted trying to light up in the boat....
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#595956 - 28/05/08 08:26 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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Just checked at 7-Eleven.

Here's some comparisons in Virginia (these are in *addition* to the $3.00 state tax):

For 1 carton:

Alexandria: $7 tax (a carton runs $34 at the 7-eleven)
Manassas: $5 tax
Fairfax County: $3 tax
Warrenton: $1.50 tax

So theoretically, you should be able to buy a carton in Warrenton for under $29.
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#595957 - 28/05/08 08:30 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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A law was passed uphere recently where stores are not allowed to display tobacco of any kind.
Our NIMBY Mayor in San Francisco is banning retail drug stores from selling cigarettes.

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#595958 - 28/05/08 08:35 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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What, you aren't happy with your commie mayor? [Finger]

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#595959 - 28/05/08 08:48 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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Our NIMBY Mayor in San Francisco is banning retail drug stores from selling cigarettes.
For some reason drug stores around here sell cigarettes cheaper than most retail outlets like deli's, candy stores, and 7-Eleven.

There is a Walgreens that sells Marlboros for $6.58 a pack. That is the absolute cheapest you can get them legally around here. Most stores are anywhere from $7.35 to $7.75 a pack.

Of course that will be increased sharply after June 3 to over $9.00 a pack or more in most stores.

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#595960 - 28/05/08 09:17 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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Originally posted by xterrapin:

[b]Our NIMBY Mayor in San Francisco is banning retail drug stores from selling cigarettes.
For some reason drug stores around here sell cigarettes cheaper than most retail outlets like deli's, candy stores, and 7-Eleven.

There is a Walgreens that sells Marlboros for $6.58 a pack. That is the absolute cheapest you can get them legally around here. Most stores are anywhere from $7.35 to $7.75 a pack.

Of course that will be increased sharply after June 3 to over $9.00 a pack or more in most stores.[/b]
Just last year they were $5/pack at the convenience store in the basement of Rockefeller Center. The co-worker I was with that was buying them was shocked that they were that cheap.
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#595961 - 28/05/08 09:23 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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A law was passed uphere recently where stores are not allowed to display tobacco of any kind.
In BC? Or all of Canada?

That Shell gas station where I was getting my morning chocolate milk in Etobicoke the last five days had plenty of tobacco on display behind the clerk . . .
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#595962 - 28/05/08 09:25 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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Most smokes cost upwards of $9.50 in Ontario Canada.

They have laws out the wazoo on smokes up here. Can't smoke in public places of any kind, can't smoke at bus stops, even if they are outdoors, can't smoke on a patio if it is covered etc.

They also have the no display law as well. You can't display cigarettes behind the counter, they must either be hidden from view, as in under the counter, or in a closed cabinet so that the packages are not visable to the consumer.

They have this wierd idea that the color of the package insights kids to purchase certain cigarette brands due to the packaging.

Most of the people that I know who smoke, smoke what are called "Native" cigarettes nowadays.

When a carton of smokes costs you upwards of $65, and the Native ones (made on the Reserves, no taxes paid etc etc) only cost you $15 for 200 smokes, it's just too good a deal to pass up.

They aren't name brand smokes sold on the reserve, they are actually cigarettes that are made on the reserve, and then smuggled into Canada through various means. It's pretty big business for those who are bold enough to do it. They pay $10 per 200 smokes, and then sell them for $15 or $20 here.

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#595963 - 28/05/08 09:53 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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I wish cigs were more expensive here. It would help me quit altogether. Granted, I only buy like a pack a week. But still.

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#595964 - 28/05/08 10:36 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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They also have the no display law as well. You can't display cigarettes behind the counter, they must either be hidden from view, as in under the counter, or in a closed cabinet so that the packages are not visable to the consumer.
Then I wonder what it was I was seeing?

I thought I recognized "Players" cigarettes . . .
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#595965 - 28/05/08 11:03 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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Originally posted by Claus:
[b]A law was passed uphere recently where stores are not allowed to display tobacco of any kind.
In BC? Or all of Canada?

That Shell gas station where I was getting my morning chocolate milk in Etobicoke the last five days had plenty of tobacco on display behind the clerk . . .
confused [/b]
Canada, I bet the long arm of the law will get him eventually. What the hell were you doing in Etobicoke????...armpit of the earth
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#595966 - 28/05/08 11:12 AM Re: Cigarette prices
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What the hell were you doing in Etobicoke
Stuff . . .
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