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Originally posted by pluvo:

Keep in mind the primary job of the police is to fill out paperwork after a crime. You'll always hear thet they prevent crime, but lets be honest, how often do they show up before a crime?

Ask a police officer what his #1 priority is & I'll bet he'll say something along the lines of "go home to my family at the end of the day" or something similar. Protect & serve? Himself yes, but society, no.

It has been long established (see Warren v. D.C., et al) that it is a "fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen." Unless of course you're arrested or incarcerated, then they are fully responsible for you. I guess Chuck D was right, 911 is a joke.

In an incredible act of "feel-good" ignorance, "Policy 5616 - Campus and Workplace Violence Prevention Policy" prohibited all firearms for self-defense from the Virginia Tech campus.

As usual, the bad guy didn't follow the rules. This could've ended very differently. On January 16, 2002 armed students at the Appalachian Law School in Grundy, Virginia (about 2 hours from VT) intervened to stop a rampaging student:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting

[b]When Odighizuwa exited the building where the shooting took place, he was approached by two students with personal firearms.

At the first sound of gunfire, fellow students Tracy Bridges and Mikael Gross, unbeknownst to each other, ran to their vehicles to fetch their personally-owned firearms. Gross, a police officer with the Grifton Police Department in his home state of North Carolina, retrieved a bulletproof vest and a 9 mm pistol. Bridges pulled his .357 Magnum pistol from beneath the driver's seat of his Chevy Tahoe. As Bridges later told the Richmond Times Dispatch, he was prepared to shoot to kill.

Bridges and Gross approached Odighizuwa from different angles, with Bridges yelling at Odighizuwa to drop his gun. Odighizuwa then dropped his firearm and was subdued by several other unarmed students, including Ted Besen and Todd Ross.

The media is biased & went out of their way to hide the truth:

http://www.uwire.com/content/topops012402002.html

Unfortunately, the media did not point out that the "intervening" students were armed. A Lexis-Nexis search revealed 88 stories on the topic, of which only two mentioned that either Bridges or Gross were armed. A Westnews search exposed worse results. It revealed 112 stories, of which only two mentioned the armed students.


An example is CNN, the epitome of mainstream big media:

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/01/16/law.school.shooting/

Students apparently tackled the gunman, said Ellen Qualls, press secretary for Virginia Gov. Mark Warner.

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Police said as Odighizuwa exited the building three other students grabbed and subdued him.

Heaven forbid you tell people the truth & let them decide for themselves. How on Earth are you supposed to control independent thinkers?[/b]
I caught 2 burglars last night. They got one car I caught them doing the second. Man I hate the fact I didn't prevent crime. Your post is so full of shit it isn't funny. Part of the reason we show up after the fact is we are so overworked with little staff. We take detail after detail then have to do reports the rest of the night. Some nights I have no time to be proactive it is just reactive. I am not complaining I love my job just saying it isn't our fault.

And if you think I am not required to provide police protection you are just plain wrong. There are many laws in Illinois which say I will do something such as domestic violence situations. Not if I want to I will or face criminal and civil liability. Not only that if I refused to show up to stuff or my chief told us we didn't have to one of two things would happen. Either he or I or both would be looking for new work. There is no way citizens would (nor should they) put up with that.

Yes I have a family and yes going home is my number 1 priority but not at the sacrifice to my job. If I have to get down and dirty I will. I can just train and do things as safe as I can to go home. But sometimes it goes to shit quick. I have a scar from a drunk hitting me over the head with a bottle. Sometimes it ain't pretty but it happens. Do I think that is part of it? I wish it wasn't but I knew what job I was getting into before I got hired.
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