Now I am supposed to be a member of Al Qaeda because I support waterboarding the worst of terrorist captives?

It's crap like that is the reason why most people can never take you people on the left serious.

Also, don't throw Ben Franklin quotes into the debate. International terrorists are not citizens of this country. They are enemies and enemy combatants and don't have the rights under the law granted to Americans.

We have NEVER previously given enemy combatants constitutional rights under our system. They have usually been executed after a military trial.

You people on the left need to start asking yourselves why all of a sudden you wish to grant the constitutional rights of American citizens upon foreign enemy combatants.

There is no historical precedent to back up any of your bullshit arguments regarding enemy combatants.

Even killing foreign enemy combatants is not in any way related to the liberties of American citizens. It never has been regardless of the amount of ridiculous propaganda you wish to throw around.