#621416 - 18/03/0811:20 AMRe: From my cold dead hands....
NY Madman
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Originally posted by Lazza:
Hmmm..., I think your analogies with health care and socialized medicine are a bit of stretch.
What is so much of a stretch about it? A lot of your argument in favor of gun control seems to be that people are killed accidentally by firearms. Far more people are killed accidentally by other means. If you are concerned about accidental deaths, firearms should be far lower on your list of priorities.
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To be clear, the gravity of the situation presented by the prevalence of guns in the wrong hands or are misused accidentally is a serious issue. This is why many countries have outlawed/restricted gun ownership. Is it of value for America to pursue a similar path?
No, it is not a value for America to pursue similar paths of other countries. There is no reason to believe that those other countries are right or correct.
It also makes a huge false assumption on your part that other countries are similar to America.
Owning firearms is also a right codified into the founding document of this country.
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As for what reform I am might be suggesting, .. I am not suggesting anything in particular. There are people out there who can make proposals based on research and, hopefully, common sense. I'd rather hear what they have to say than suggest something inappropriate.
You did use the word reform in your previous post. Yet you seem reluctant to indicate exactly what type of reform you would like to see instituted. You wouldn't have used the word reform if you didn't think there should be changes.
Now you are using the expression "common sense" in relation to gun laws. What is "common sense" gun legislation in your mind? Is common sense restricting guns for honest citizens and leaving criminals the only armed segment of the population?
Criminals don't give a damn about any law. Gun control does nothing but restrict honest citizens from obtaining access to firearms.
We live in a very large and free country. One of the tradeoffs of living in a free society is that the criminal class also has a lot freedom.... and opportunity to ply their trades.
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But as I said in my original posting, I think folks like yourself will continue to have your way ... more rather than less.
Folks like myself should continue to have our way. First and foremost is because the constitution says that people have a right to bear arms. The people have a right to own guns.
I myself am in favor of certain restrictions, but I am in no way in favor of broad gun control.
You really never indicated very clearly what "your way" is regarding the issue.