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#624141 - 27/05/03 11:20 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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I like all their albums. I even get in the mood for tracks off their S&M CD occasionally. I'm sure I'll own St. Anger.

With all the Napster fighting, tThink their new CDs will have some copy protection?
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#624142 - 27/05/03 11:20 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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i would say people knowing of metallica when the blakc album came out was more about the fact that THEY NEVER HAD A MUSIC VIDEO BEFORE "One" so they didn't have a built in commercial audience until the black album....

honestly my favorite metallica album is ...and justice for all.

But i have never understood how anyone could listen to that... then listen to the stuff since and view any of it as anything but a watered down version of a formerly great and influencal band... metallica has not released one bit of influencal music since ...and justce.

the do de3serve MTV Icon status... bu tit should have been done before the black album... metallica has done nothing but tarnish their legacy since then

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#624143 - 27/05/03 11:24 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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--------edited because i was so excited about my six degrees of seperation that i forgot to include the answer--------
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Originally posted by RedX:
Trivia question for your guys (and gals) out there.....What Scandinavian band did Manson's new bass player originally hit limited success with? It was quite a while ago.....
:p
shotgun messiah

Better trivia:
What german-american band did Tim Skold Have success with: KMFDM

What was tim sklolds solo project Named: Skold

who was the producer: Siebold

Who produced my bands albums: siebold

the six degrees thing is scary... tims a good guy, hung out with him a few times... honestly i liked the first 3 manson albums.... holywood sucked... and the reason i came back to it this time is because of Skold...

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#624144 - 27/05/03 11:24 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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Trivia question for your guys (and gals) out there.....What Scandinavian band did Manson's new bass player originally hit limited success with? It was quite a while ago.....

:p
Tim Skold of Skold ORRRRRRR Shotgun Messiah

am i right? What did I win?
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#624145 - 27/05/03 11:26 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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In reality....".....And Justice" was so strong because the band was still inuitively influenced by the impact of Burton's input. Jason Newsted is a phenomenal musician, but unfortunately he was not permitted to have a lasting impact on the songcrafting and writing of Shitallica music.....But he womping ass now in Voivod.
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#624146 - 27/05/03 11:28 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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Originally posted by Todrick:
Quote:
Originally posted by RedX:
[b]Trivia question for your guys (and gals) out there.....What Scandinavian band did Manson's new bass player originally hit limited success with? It was quite a while ago.....
:p
Better trivia:
What german-american band did Tim Skold Have success with: KMFDM

What was tim sklolds solo project Named: Skold

who was the producer: Siebold

Who produced my bands albums: siebold

the six degrees thing is scary... tims a good guy, hung out with him a few times... honestly i liked the first 3 manson albums.... holywood sucked... and the reason i came back to it this time is because of Skold...[/b]
Very cool.....and very good trivia.....
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#624147 - 27/05/03 11:29 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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But i have never understood how anyone could listen to that... then listen to the stuff since and view any of it as anything but a watered down version of a formerly great and influencal band... metallica has not released one bit of influencal music since ...and justce.
I like Master Of Puppets, etc. And then I like Enya. Go figure.
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#624148 - 27/05/03 11:29 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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Originally posted by RedX:
[b]

Trivia question for your guys (and gals) out there.....What Scandinavian band did Manson's new bass player originally hit limited success with? It was quite a while ago.....

:p
Tim Skold of Skold ORRRRRRR Shotgun Messiah[/b]
Nothing gets by you guys.....Damn I thought I was maybe asking something kinda obscure.....

laugh
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#624149 - 27/05/03 11:30 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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I like Master Of Puppets, etc. And then I like Enya. Go figure.
yup... im diggin the new manson and that toby kieth, willie nelson song...

i definately like diverse music

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#624150 - 27/05/03 11:32 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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I used to be a huge shotgun Messiah fan after Violent New Breed came out, then I followed on to his solo project Skold. Kind of lost interest after that until now.
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#624151 - 27/05/03 11:34 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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Todrick ; What band were or are you in? Any mp3's?
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#624152 - 27/05/03 11:36 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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check out

KMFDM "symols"(it has no name just a series of symbols"
KMFDM "Adios"

MDFMK "MDFMK"

KMFDM "Attak"

some great Skold performances.

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#624153 - 27/05/03 11:52 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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I was in a band called "KDC"

our biggest success was a series of dates opening for Frontline Assembly that followed our headlining tour of the US/canada supporting the release of our Album "Dark Skies" The interesting foot note to the story is i started the "Dark skies" tours as a guitar tech(my buddy played guitar in the band) partway through the tour he got thrown out and i replaced him(picking up percussion in addition to guitar) for the tour and the begining of recording the next album "A+0(m)" before i left the band, to be a dad... the singer Ryan Gribbin wa sthe best man at my wedding a couple years later...

MSN has KDC samples in their entertainment section...

"Collection for Injection" was the first album and was before my time...

"Dark Skies" and "A+0(m)" are from my era

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#624154 - 27/05/03 11:56 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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Metallica today is another product of MTV. Cut your hair and change your sound so you can keep up with the times....after all your target audience is now 12-16 year olds!! They are a fricken sell out joke. When Metallica started they were a dominating force (hell, they even have the best name any rock band could ever want), now they have been reduced to whining little bitches. Garbage!
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#624155 - 27/05/03 12:43 PM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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Oh also Skold did some producing with The NewlyDeads (former members of Faster Pussy Cat and Bang Tango)
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#624156 - 27/05/03 12:47 PM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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newly deads theres an obscure refereance...

why not mention his more notable producing/mixing credits:

Peter Murphy and Lords of Acid

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#624157 - 27/05/03 12:50 PM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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Damn thats right. Not sure I could dig up any more info on the dude with out it spanning off to other acts (6 degrees once again).
Still he totally tried to bring Industrial to the mainstream with Violent New Breed. Great album that flopped horribly.
Also was the origanl Bass player for Shotgun Messiah and on the second album took over vocals and hired a bass player to tour with them from St Louis (no idea the guys name)
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#624158 - 27/05/03 12:54 PM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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I actually really like Shotgun Messiah....a very unique sound for their time. But you couls also tell that they would never proceed past 2nd tier.
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#624159 - 27/05/03 03:43 PM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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More trivia...

What has 9 arms and sucks ?
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#624160 - 27/05/03 03:47 PM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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def leppard?

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#624161 - 27/05/03 04:08 PM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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def leppard?
LOL [LOL]
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#624162 - 27/05/03 04:11 PM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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dude, seriously i think im right

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#624163 - 11/06/03 10:41 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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So who has bought it (St.Anger)?

I did last night (used, already). I've listened to three songs so far, and I like it.
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#624164 - 11/06/03 11:04 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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Metallica today is another product of MTV. Cut your hair and change your sound so you can keep up with the times....after all your target audience is now 12-16 year olds!!
I agree pretty much. I was never a huge fan, but everything from "Load" onward is pretty lame. They are basically a parody of themselves now, kinda like spinal tap. Hetfield and his sneers are pretty silly. It's actually funny to watch them now, trying to still be so "hardcore". I think they still have talent, but their music lately has just sucked.

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#624165 - 11/06/03 11:16 AM Re: Metallica- St. Anger
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Originally posted by lincolnnellie:
[b]Metallica today is another product of MTV. Cut your hair and change your sound so you can keep up with the times....after all your target audience is now 12-16 year olds!!
I agree pretty much... Hetfield and his sneers are pretty silly....[/b]
I have to admit. Regarding Hetfield, this morning I was listening to, I think, the 3rd song on the St. Anger CD, and he went into a sneer/cry different than what I've heard before. It was literally comical, kind of a screech, and it made me laugh out loud.

But for the most part, the stuff still sounds good to me.
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