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#674060 - 12/12/10 07:19 AM '06 Xterra stalled, won't crank over now
TomR_here Offline
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My Daughter's vehicle, so I'll have to relay info back and forth.
Here's what she says happened;
ok, i was driving and i thought that i wasn't going as fast as my speedometer said i was. i looked a couple more times over the next mile and that's when i noticed the needle dropping. i pushed the gas pedal harder and it was hard to push. i pulled over and put it in park, my gauges starting going crazy and when i turned the key toward off but not all the way off is when my dashboard lights went crazy. so i turned it all the way off, when i tried starting it it just clicked like you heard.

I towed it off the road and did a quick look under the hood. Drivebelt is still where it should be. Battery cables felt nice and tight on battery. We did not try to jump start it last night. Currently waiting to see if she's going to have it towed to a garage or not, plus she's in church right now and has the keys..

Currently digging thru here looking for ideas..


Edited by TomR_here (12/12/10 07:21 AM)
Edit Reason: i kant spel

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#674061 - 12/12/10 07:23 AM Re: '06 Xterra stalled, won't crank over now [Re: TomR_here]
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Swap out the battery with a known good one.

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#674062 - 12/12/10 09:17 AM Re: '06 Xterra stalled, won't crank over now [Re: Saturday Morning]
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Agreed, also make sure you unplug any accessories you might have (ipod transmitter, garmin, ect) until you get that sorted. I fried my ipod transmitter with a problem like this.
Ended up being that the alt was not producing enough charge and I had similar symptoms to yours. Seemed like a bad battery but turned out it was just a weak alt.
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#674063 - 12/12/10 09:39 AM Re: '06 Xterra stalled, won't crank over now [Re: Jahadaz]
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Last year on my 02 everything, dash, radio, headlights they all started going dim, the radio started having some excessive noise in it as well. I thought the Alt. was going bad, tore it apart and found a lose wire on the alt, started getting some corrosion on it, causing it to not be able to recharge the battery. Removed and cleaned and put a new batt in (was due for a batt anyway) problem solved.
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#674064 - 12/12/10 12:24 PM Re: '06 Xterra stalled, won't crank over now [Re: Jahadaz]
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I'm hoping it's not the alt and is just a bad connection somewhere. Neither of us has money for new alt right now.
Be heading over in a few to see what I can find with it. Have a DMM and fresh battery.
If nothing else, we'll atleast try to get it here instead of sitting at a business. Hate for it to get towed off as abandoned seeing as we're under a Winter Storm Warning.

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#674065 - 12/12/10 03:09 PM Re: '06 Xterra stalled, won't crank over now [Re: TomR_here]
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It's running again. But still don't know what the whole issue is/was.

As I was getting ready to head over to it, she called me saying another friend was trying to jump-start it. Wanted me to bring a bit of gas so she could just get it back home and make it to the gas station tomorrow.
(she says she was low on gas, but not low enough to run out, and was on her way to the gas station when it died yesterday. and that she's drove it with the gage reading lower than it was)

Anyways, long time with jumpers hooked up, it finally wanted to crank over and start, and she's headed home now.

I'm not buying that she was out of gas myself.
Since when does running out of gas cause a vehicle to not crank, as if the battery was low/dead? She says she didn't crank on it, just tried to re-start it once and it did the clicky-clicky-clicky of a low battery. That's when she called me..

We didn't swap the battery, and I didn't check voltage with the DMM. But dash gage said it was charging, so,,,???
Did notice lots of corrosion on the + post of the battery. Told her how to clean that up.

So, I'm still at a loss on what actually is going on with it.

To cold and windy out there today for any of this stuff.......

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#674067 - 12/12/10 04:12 PM Re: '06 Xterra stalled, won't crank over now [Re: TomR_here]
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Seeing as you had the corrosion on the post, I would make a point to check the connections, both at the battery as well as the other end of each of the cables. make sure to inspect them all the way from one end to the other, not just at the ends, to make sure there isnt a problem in between the ends, ie: missing insulation , always a chance a critter could have chewed on one.
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#674068 - 12/12/10 04:39 PM Re: '06 Xterra stalled, won't crank over now [Re: e207]
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Will do that.
One of the people that was there trying to get it going today, has a trickle charger and is letting her use it overnight. Get the battery charged back up, and I'll check things out tomorrow after work.

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#674172 - 24/12/10 01:52 AM Re: '06 Xterra stalled, won't crank over now [Re: TomR_here]
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I have a 05 and when I went into nissan to have my gas guage fixed, they said they have a recall for a electrial sensor of some kind that needs to be replaced. Due to causing stall outs!! Nissan never contaceted me on this recall!! Its free to replace and even if you don't have problems with it get it done!


Edited by sdxterra (24/12/10 01:53 AM)

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#674184 - 25/12/10 03:52 AM Re: '06 Xterra stalled, won't crank over now [Re: sdxterra]
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Originally Posted By: sdxterra
I have a 05 and when I went into nissan to have my gas guage fixed, they said they have a recall for a electrial sensor of some kind that needs to be replaced. Due to causing stall outs!! Nissan never contaceted me on this recall!! Its free to replace and even if you don't have problems with it get it done!


Aha! Seems that is the issue after all. Happened again yesterday, but it did crank back up on it's own. Becky says the gage read 1/4 tank, but it died on her, and acted just like last time.
Earlier in the week, she filled the tank, but it took 2 days for the gage to actually register that.
I will let her know of the recall.
Thanks.

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#674230 - 31/12/10 03:49 AM Re: '06 Xterra stalled, won't crank over now [Re: TomR_here]
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Ok, she took it in the the Dealer.
Only open recall was on the ECM, so they replaced it.
Nothing done on the fuel gage/sending unit issue as it would of cost money she don't have at the moment. Pushing 90K on miles, so she's beyond any warranty stuff.

Talked her into trying to limit her "driving all over the place", and to toss some gas in it every other day during her work week.
And to atleast toss a ten spot in the tank if she does any longer trips to see friends and family.
Basically, cover the trip your making.
We shall see how she does on that. Girl does not stay home much.

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#674232 - 31/12/10 07:15 AM Re: '06 Xterra stalled, won't crank over now [Re: sdxterra]
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Originally Posted By: sdxterra
I have a 05 and when I went into nissan to have my gas guage fixed, they said they have a recall for a electrial sensor of some kind that needs to be replaced. Due to causing stall outs!! Nissan never contaceted me on this recall!! Its free to replace and even if you don't have problems with it get it done!


That would be the recall on the fuel sending unit under the back seat. The connectors were corroding due to not being sealed well. Nissan had a recall for this and I believe (I may be wrong) it has expired.

This would explain some of the daughter's issues. But not sure it would fully. In any event, take out the passenger side lower seat in the back (there's two tabs under the seat - just pull them. It's made to come out so you can lay the back seat down flat). Under there is a panel to remove. Take that off and you'll see the connector on the fuel sending unit. Check to see if it is corroded. If it is, clean it up and seal it well with electrical grease to prevent it from corroding again. Like I said, it may not be the issue, but sounds like it could be adding to it anyway.

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#674235 - 31/12/10 01:35 PM Re: '06 Xterra stalled, won't crank over now [Re: Gonzo-2]
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Thank you for that little tidbit of info.
Originally Posted By: Gonzo-2
Originally Posted By: sdxterra
I have a 05 and when I went into nissan to have my gas guage fixed, they said they have a recall for a electrial sensor of some kind that needs to be replaced. Due to causing stall outs!! Nissan never contaceted me on this recall!! Its free to replace and even if you don't have problems with it get it done!


That would be the recall on the fuel sending unit under the back seat. The connectors were corroding due to not being sealed well. Nissan had a recall for this and I believe (I may be wrong) it has expired.

This would explain some of the daughter's issues. But not sure it would fully. In any event, take out the passenger side lower seat in the back (there's two tabs under the seat - just pull them. It's made to come out so you can lay the back seat down flat). Under there is a panel to remove. Take that off and you'll see the connector on the fuel sending unit. Check to see if it is corroded. If it is, clean it up and seal it well with electrical grease to prevent it from corroding again. Like I said, it may not be the issue, but sounds like it could be adding to it anyway.

-G

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#674236 - 31/12/10 01:37 PM Re: '06 Xterra stalled, won't crank over now [Re: TomR_here]
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Hmmmm. Thought I had replied with quote, but apparently not...

Anyways, Thank you for that tidbit of info on the issue with the connector.

Safe and Happy New Year!!!!!!

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