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#78338 - 27/02/03 05:16 AM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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I'd also be concerned about their strength relative to the rockcrawlers with the square tubes.
I was referring to the fact that the round tubed portion is attached at three spots whereas the 4crawlers are attached at four. I see this was not clear from my post.
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#78339 - 27/02/03 01:42 PM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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I'd also be concerned about their strength relative to the rockcrawlers with the square tubes.
The shrockworks has 3 mounting points to the frame, the 4crawlers only 2
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#78340 - 27/02/03 01:48 PM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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Originally posted by stormy:
The shrockworks has 3 mounting points to the frame, the 4crawlers only 2
...Ha? confused My 4Crawler's sliderz do have 3-mounting points to the frame...
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#78341 - 27/02/03 01:49 PM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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Originally posted by ClaptoVaughn:
http://www.boulderbars.com/xterrabar.htm
how about these? they look similiar to pretty much every other slider i've seen, except they don't stick out as far as the eoe's.
I have these sliders and I like them alot. They are about 1/3 or more lighter than the EOE's (I had the eoe's for about 2 weeks). My only dislike is that they mount close to the pinch seam. I have a couple of dents in the seam from hard impact. Other than that, I like 'em.
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#78342 - 27/02/03 01:53 PM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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Originally posted by stormy:
[b]The shrockworks has 3 mounting points to the frame, the 4crawlers only 2
...Ha? confused My 4Crawler's sliderz do have 3-mounting points to the frame...[/b]
I was looking at the wrong one's...
This is the one I was looking at...

This is the correct one...
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#78343 - 27/02/03 05:56 PM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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I don't agree that round tube is stronger. I think a certain walled steel is the same whether round or square.
Fine, you don't have to agree.

Just how much experience do you have in metal work and fabrication anyway? It seems everyone is an armchair fabricator when it comes to message boards. Everyone KNOWS exactly the right way to do things even though they have never fabricated anything.

My knowledge and experience regarding this subject comes from one of the leading manufacturers of competition off-road vehicles, both modified and built from the ground up.

But then again, they could just be incredibly stupid, thus, making you correct. :rolleyes:
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#78344 - 27/02/03 05:59 PM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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Originally posted by Robinhood150:
Actually, a round shape is 1.18 times stronger than a square shape of the same size (in bending).

(Quoted from Roger)
Round is best for forces from any direction and resists crushing better.
Thank you for proving my point. shocked
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#78345 - 28/02/03 12:28 AM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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Actually, I was advocating a view that there isn't only one way to do things. People slag on square tube all the time as being inadequate (e.g., for inner or exo cages) and it can be fine. For most people, differences in round or square tube are completely irrelevant, except for cost and weight.

Of course, "one of the leading manufacturers of competition off-road vehicles, both modified and built from the ground up" hasn't told me shit so what do I know.
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#78346 - 28/02/03 07:19 AM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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Originally posted by 628:
Actually, I was advocating a view that there isn't only one way to do things. People slag on square tube all the time as being inadequate (e.g., for inner or exo cages) and it can be fine.
Aahh, but that's not what you said originally. There's a big difference between something being adequate, an optional viewpoint, or "can be fine", versus one type of material not being "stronger" than the other. The material can be proven through scientific testing. Your above comments offer a scenario which is completely different than << "I don't agree that round tube is stronger. I think a certain walled steel is the same whether round or square" >>.
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#78347 - 28/02/03 10:03 AM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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Ahhh, so sue me. [Finger]

I'll admit that my first post was off. Round tube is stronger than square lb per lb. But in the real world, especially in the real world of IFS trucks, people aren't running on the edge where .18 greater strength really makes a difference.

Cheap, square tube works.
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#78348 - 28/02/03 11:56 AM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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Ahhh, so sue me. [Finger]

I'll admit that my first post was off. Round tube is stronger than square lb per lb.
My attorney has been contacted, you should be served by the end of next week. [Finger] wink
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#78349 - 28/02/03 06:45 PM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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You can also have your attorney sue me for intellectual property theft, because I'm going to steal your idea for c-channel welded to the slider mounts.

[Finger] smile [Finger] smile [Finger]

That's a damn good idea.
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#78350 - 28/02/03 08:13 PM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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You can also have your attorney sue me for intellectual property theft, because I'm going to steal your idea for c-channel welded to the slider mounts.

[Finger] smile [Finger] smile [Finger]

That's a damn good idea.
Wanna picture?

I could snap one tomorrow if you would like to take a little look see.
[Geek]
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#78351 - 28/02/03 08:59 PM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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A picture would be great.
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#78352 - 01/03/03 06:27 PM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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Originally posted by 628:
A picture would be great.
Sorry, no pic today, I was installing a Calmini steering system for a friend and then it started raining and now it's too dark.

For sure I'll get you some tomorrow. I might even take one off for you if I'm feeling real frisky. [Spit]
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#78353 - 02/03/03 12:10 PM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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No need to unmount them. A clear shot would be perfect.
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#78354 - 02/03/03 04:48 PM Re: who's tried these sliders?
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I opened a new thread titled "Slider Mounting Modification" for everyone to see. Let me know what you think.
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