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#98808 - 08/11/04 10:40 AM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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[QB]The X is pretty universal... The biggest weakness you have right now are your tires... they suck.. that should be your first upgrade...

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which tires do you recomend, and will they void the warranty. i was told that BFG allterrain void certain warranties

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#98809 - 08/11/04 10:54 AM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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the only way tires could void the warranty is if they make body contact, and you try to get the damage fixed under warranty. If the axles snap, and they can prove it was from the tires, then you are screwed for that to.. anything not directly related ot the tires, and they make no difference. example, you throw a rod in the motor, tires are not to blame. you snap a front cv joint, tires may be to blame. radio craps out, nope.. not tire related.

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#98810 - 08/11/04 08:13 PM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Originally posted by tahoe_x:
[b]Oh but it is a piece of crap.

A "trail-rated" "4x4" whose foundation is a uni-body chassis!
I thought you were an idiot, and you finally proved it.[/b]
Okay then smartass, prove then why a uni-body is preferable over a body-on-frame 4x4 while off-roading.

Don't just call me a fucking idiot if you have nothing to say to back it up. [ThumbsDown]

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#98811 - 08/11/04 08:21 PM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Originally posted by Xtopher:
the only way tires could void the warranty is if they make body contact, and you try to get the damage fixed under warranty. If the axles snap, and they can prove it was from the tires, then you are screwed for that to.. anything not directly related ot the tires, and they make no difference. example, you throw a rod in the motor, tires are not to blame. you snap a front cv joint, tires may be to blame. radio craps out, nope.. not tire related.
so as long as i stick with the same size, but more agressive tire, then i should be fine??

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#98812 - 08/11/04 09:46 PM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Originally posted by tahoe_x:
Okay then smartass, prove then why a uni-body is preferable over a body-on-frame 4x4 while off-roading.

Don't just call me a fucking idiot if you have nothing to say to back it up.
I didn't call you a fucking idiot. laugh

I never said is was preferable, I was merely responding to your claim that uni-body 4x4s were crap, which they're not. You hate Jeeps because you're ignorant, there is nothing I can do to help you with that problem.

BTW, threatening me via PM like you did won't do much for you tough guy.
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#98813 - 08/11/04 10:13 PM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Originally posted by Xtopher:
[b]the only way tires could void the warranty is if they make body contact, and you try to get the damage fixed under warranty. If the axles snap, and they can prove it was from the tires, then you are screwed for that to.. anything not directly related ot the tires, and they make no difference. example, you throw a rod in the motor, tires are not to blame. you snap a front cv joint, tires may be to blame. radio craps out, nope.. not tire related.
so as long as i stick with the same size, but more agressive tire, then i should be fine??[/b]
You'll be fine - and you almost certainly won't have any problems with up to a 32" tire (or 265/75R16 if you have 16" wheels). Lots of folks here run that size and haven't reported any warranty problems (myself included).

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#98814 - 09/11/04 12:33 AM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Originally posted by tahoe_x:
[b]Okay then smartass, prove then why a uni-body is preferable over a body-on-frame 4x4 while off-roading.

Don't just call me a fucking idiot if you have nothing to say to back it up.
I didn't call you a fucking idiot. laugh

I never said is was preferable, I was merely responding to your claim that uni-body 4x4s were crap, which they're not. You hate Jeeps because you're ignorant, there is nothing I can do to help you with that problem.

BTW, threatening me via PM like you did won't do much for you tough guy.[/b]
:rolleyes:

Spare me the crap.

My only complaint with Jeep is that they aren't what they used to be. They USED to be good off-roaders. But now they try to use their past image to make all of their trucks look like the best 4x4's on the market. It's all fake and it makes me sick.

Why you disagree with that and call me a now 'ignorant' idiot is beyond me.

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#98815 - 09/11/04 02:19 AM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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I really wish people would stop claiming this or that is a POS unless you have spent a lot of time driving any of them.
I didn't say the whole truck is a POS, I said the clearance of the Liberty is a pos (as in shitty clearance).

Why do you have to drive one to call something shitty? Just go and look underneath a liberty. Most of the ones on the road are the lowered ones, and the lower control arms are like an inch away from the ground.

Jeep (and Toyota) do not quote the absolute lowest point.

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#98816 - 09/11/04 03:37 AM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Originally posted by tahoe_x:
It's all fake and it makes me sick.
Yup, the Cherokee was fake, so was the Grand Cherokee. Crappy 4 wheel drive vehicles. They suck. You win.
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#98817 - 09/11/04 03:52 AM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Just go and look underneath a liberty. Most of the ones on the road are the lowered ones, and the lower control arms are like an inch away from the ground.
Yup. Looks like one inch...



There are only a few ways to make an independent suspension with upper and lower control arms. Sometimes they are straight, sometimes curved. You see an inch, I see a lot of room, and a suspension with more travel than the Xterra.
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#98818 - 09/11/04 08:42 AM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Originally posted by tahoe_x:
Fine man, you go ahead and buy yourself a unibody liberty then.

I'd be willing to bet that even hardcore Jeepers despise the thing.
I think a lot of Jeep guys don't like it, but they don't like it because it's IFS, not because it's unibody - the only non-unibody Jeep for a long time has been the TJ. Any "hardcore Jeeper" that doesn't like the KJ probably doesn't like the Xterra either, because both are IFS.

That said, I do personally prefer having the truck frame and I admit it was one of many factors that entered the equation when I made my purchase decision (which included quite a variety of vehicles).

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#98819 - 09/11/04 08:42 AM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Originally posted by tahoe_x:
[b]It's all fake and it makes me sick.
Yup, the Cherokee was fake, so was the Grand Cherokee. Crappy 4 wheel drive vehicles. They suck. You win.[/b]
Fine man, you go ahead and buy yourself a little liberty then. The day that the frame starts breaking apart after your trip to Moab will be all the better for those of us that own our steel framed xterras. cool

I'd be willing to bet that even Jeepers despise of that piece of crap.

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#98820 - 09/11/04 09:41 AM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Ok.

A unibody structure can actually peform fairly well. My complaint with the unibody structure is not having a place to tuck drivetrain parts in without cramping the cabin.

It would take A LOT of hammering to destroy a unibody structure. A Frame doesn't even make you immune. Do a search for "Fender Crack" on the forums here. If it was put together, it can be taken apart, period.

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#98821 - 09/11/04 11:19 AM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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crap crap crap crap

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#98822 - 09/11/04 12:18 PM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Originally posted by tahoe_x:
The day that the frame starts breaking apart after your trip to Moab will be all the better for those of us that own our steel framed xterras.
You keep telling yourself that, then read this thread .

There are dozens of us with this problem.
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#98823 - 09/11/04 12:18 PM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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crap crap crap crap
Alex, I'll take Asians Applauding for 100 please.

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#98824 - 09/11/04 01:32 PM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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I lost it at work Couldnt help but laugh at that one.
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#98825 - 09/11/04 02:50 PM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Wow, didn't mean to start anything with this thread. Just wanted to know where NOT to drive a stock X smile

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#98826 - 09/11/04 03:12 PM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Originally posted by mjpd1:
Wow, didn't mean to start anything with this thread. Just wanted to know where NOT to drive a stock X smile
Don't drive it into XOC's driveway... He might swap the frame on ya. wink
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#98827 - 09/11/04 11:33 PM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Wow, didn't mean to start anything with this thread. Just wanted to know where NOT to drive a stock X smile
Wise Man once say: "Welcome to XOC, it doesn't get any better" or something to that effect.

There's nothing wrong with a little internet banter and argument, it's how things get discussed smile

I definately wouldn't drive a stock X off a cliff or into the ocean, or into a herd of Caribu.

Happy? wink

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#98828 - 10/11/04 04:21 AM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Check out my pics...apparently stock can't handle HERE .
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#98829 - 10/11/04 04:45 AM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Originally posted by XterraAdam:
I definately wouldn't drive a stock X off a cliff or into the ocean, or into a herd of Caribu.

Happy? wink
Damnit, my friends are gonna be pissed when I cancel our caribu cliff-run this weekend...

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#98830 - 10/11/04 05:30 AM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Don't tell me you don't feel like it ?

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#98831 - 10/11/04 08:29 PM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Originally posted by xoc:
Yup. Looks like one inch...


You tell me which one is lower:


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#98832 - 15/11/04 12:04 AM Re: limits of a stock Xterra?
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Originally posted by tahoe_x:
[QUOTE]A "trail-rated" "4x4" whose foundation is a uni-body chassis!
moron.

bring your X down to So Cal...

I'll show you what "trail rated" and Unibody have in common...

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