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#37740 - 20/11/06 07:32 PM 3'' suspension with 33's
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Are anyone of you out there running 33's with 3' of lift

Im thinking of doing it and want to know home much plastic and metal i will need to cut

Just wondering the pros and cons of running this setup

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#37741 - 20/11/06 08:30 PM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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Since I am nice i will help you out but you really should do a search next time. to fit 33's you will need at least a 2in body lift. you will have to do pretty major trimming. I have a 3in bodylift and had to do some pretty major trimming. you best bet would be to go with a 3in suspension lift, 2in body lift, and 32's. this would give you the best fit.

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#37742 - 20/11/06 08:51 PM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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I don't know about all that. I'm running 32's on a 3" suspension lift with no rubbing issues. Another person in our club runs 33" mud tires on a 3" suspension lift with no body lift either. I do agree though that you should run 32's on a 3" suspension lift. You will have to trim front mudflap and remove the lower portions of all mudflaps.
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#37743 - 20/11/06 09:06 PM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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well I guess I forgot to mention that the backspacing you get makes a difference in how much trimming you have to do

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#37744 - 20/11/06 09:17 PM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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wink We are both running stock wheels btw.
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#37745 - 20/11/06 09:24 PM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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I have less than stock backspacing and I'm running 33x12.50x15s with a 2" BL and PML that's it.

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#37746 - 21/11/06 06:00 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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tyler..how much trimming did you have to do?

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#37747 - 21/11/06 06:04 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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Quote:
Originally posted by ChefTyler:
I have less than stock backspacing and I'm running 33x12.50x15s with a 2" BL and PML that's it.
Me too, I am running a 4.75 BS, but I am going to go with new wheels at the stock BS

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#37748 - 21/11/06 06:14 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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does anyone have anypic of thier trucks with 33's and 3'' sus.

I jst ordered 15'' wheels with 4.75 bs...

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#37749 - 21/11/06 06:17 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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Well, it's only a PML, but it does have a 2"BL

Here is how 33/12.5 MT's look with 4.75 BS



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#37750 - 21/11/06 06:21 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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so how much lift do you think you have? 3? or 4?

bt the way...your truck looks damn good [ThumbsUp]

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#37751 - 21/11/06 06:29 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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Quote:
Originally posted by fynearte:
so how much lift do you think you have? 3? or 4?

bt the way...your truck looks damn good [ThumbsUp]
Thanks!

Well,
PML=1.5"
BL=2"
Tires=.75" (stocks taped @30.5"OD, new tires taped @32"OD, so: 32"-30.5" /2 = .75")

Approx: 4.25~4.5" above stock

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#37752 - 21/11/06 06:32 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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did you say that your going to larger backspacing?

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#37753 - 21/11/06 06:48 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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A lot depends on the articulation you run into.

A 32 can stuff w/o a lift if you remove the well plastic.

A 33 sticks out another 1/2", and hits metal on full compression on an oem set-up.

If you are doing mud, or other terrain where you don't get full compression, or your suspension is too stiff to fully compress, you installed bumpstop extensions, etc...that last 1/2" can be kept at bay...but you lost uptravel, etc.

If you do rocks in terrain that you need all the travel, don't have bumpstop extensions or too stiff a suspension to compress fully, etc...then that last 1/2" of uptravel will hit just like w/o an SL.

Of course, every X is a bit different, so that 1/2" might be smaller or larger.

And - some 33's are 32.5", and some are 33", etc...so that also affects that last 1/2".

And - of course, the BS makes a big difference, when the wheel is turned, as the arc it swings through is different, and, on compression, as the tire is now sticking out under the fender more as well if there is less BS.

The section width makes a difference as well, some 33's are 285/75/16's for example, really 33x11.5's, etc...and nominal 33x12.5/15's are tpically less than 33" in diameter...shorter but fatter than the 285's....so they clear differently as well.

So that means you can run 33's w/o a BL under some circumstances, and you can have 31's rub like a bitch with a 3" SL, etc...and everything in between....depending upon the set-ups.

As a rule of thumb - figure the 2" BL to get 33's and full articulation...but there are other ways.

It all depends on the specifics.

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#37754 - 21/11/06 07:03 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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well i have 4.75'' backspacing...and looking for the cons of 33's

how much metal will i have to cut, and ccan i put the plastic stripping back on to make it look like i never cut it

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#37755 - 21/11/06 07:05 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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Quote:
Originally posted by fynearte:
did you say that your going to larger backspacing?
I want to go from 4.75 to 5.5 to pull in the tires a little bit more

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#37756 - 21/11/06 07:06 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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why...i just bought 4.75 mad

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#37757 - 21/11/06 07:07 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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Quote:
Originally posted by fynearte:
well i have 4.75'' backspacing...and looking for the cons of 33's

how much metal will i have to cut, and ccan i put the plastic stripping back on to make it look like i never cut it
I had to cut like 1-1/4"~1-1/2" or so of metal, no chance of the plastic being put back on, and I still hit upon compression at like a 45° turn, that is why I want to ditch the 4.75's for 5.5's

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#37758 - 21/11/06 07:10 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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so would you reccomend 32's or 33's

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#37759 - 21/11/06 07:13 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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Quote:
Originally posted by fynearte:
so would you reccomend 32's or 33's
Well, I like the 33's alot, but I will be happier with stock BS

I would recommend either swap the rims, or go with 32's

Here is a picture of what I trimmed off (metal and plastic)


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#37760 - 21/11/06 07:17 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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and with your rims now they rub alot while turning? would trimming more metal work or do you just no want to do that

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#37761 - 21/11/06 07:20 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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Quote:
Originally posted by fynearte:
and with your rims now they rub alot while turning? would trimming more metal work or do you just no want to do that
Well, they don't rub without compression, If I back out of my driveway while turning (slight bump), it will usualy hit. The issue is if you trim anymore you will be sawing into the floor. The backspacing changes the turning arc, the 4.75 sets the wheels further out of the wheel wells.

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#37762 - 21/11/06 07:29 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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shoot.

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#37763 - 21/11/06 07:31 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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TJ What size tire are you running? I know you have the 3" suspension right? I was also thinking about the 4.75BS but was on the fence about 32 or 33's

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#37764 - 21/11/06 09:05 AM Re: 3'' suspension with 33's
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If not mistaken he runs 33s with a 3in SL and 2" BL on stock 16 inch rims.

I run a PML with a 2" BL running 33x12.5x15 muds. I run my tires on 00 stock xterra 15" rims, though as I tried to avoid having backspacing issues. I did have to trim metal though to avoid rubbing issues while compressing. I had NO rubbing issues when driving on the road, even while turning and hitting bumps.

Bottom line - stock 00-01 xterra wheels will run fine on road and not rub, just have to take all the plastic off. The less backspacing you have on aftermarket wheel the more metal trimming you have to do. You will have to trim metal on either rim with 33s if you take it offroad.

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