go to virtualearth.msn.com...type in Tower rd Enola, PA. If you zoom in it shows you some of the open spots. To the right is where we were when that shot was taken. There are also some other spots up there that are muddy too. If you use virtual earth it will give you directions right to it. If you are interested in checking it out, let me know. It is not like paragon like you are used to but still fun and not all the way up in hazelton. The guy I told you about a few months ago that has the lifted rust colored xterra, I hung out with him a few times and we went up there 2 weeks ago.