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#107528 - 24/01/07 06:41 PM Re: just wondering?
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Ford 9".

Slightly stronger than the H233B.

Much, MUCH cheaper to regear, lock, and replace parts if needed.

My 9" will be going on sometime in the next couple weeks, followed soon after w/ a Dana 44 HP front.

Gear installation on a 9" is a piece of cake. Just have to have patience and follow directions. Only "hitch" to the job is setting the pinion pre-load. Takes a lot of patience, a lot of brute strength, and the willingness to get it right. 1978 & 1979 Ford Bronco has full-width axles. Picked mine up (front and rear) for $400. You can find them even cheaper if you look hard enough. Rear 9" was only $100 of that.

Here's my pattern.

Drive Side:



Coast Side:



(PS: Anybody that says the H233B is as strong as a Dana 60 should be dragged out into the street and beaten with their stupid stick... It's not even close. It's stronger than a Dana 44, but not as strong as a D60. Consider it about halfway between the two. With the Ford 9" being between the H233B and the Dana 60, but a little closer to the Dana 60)

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#107529 - 24/01/07 09:32 PM Re: just wondering?
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if i were to do a 60 what do you guys think would be the best bet?
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#107530 - 24/01/07 09:37 PM Re: just wondering?
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Ford 9’s are ok but most of the stock ones need upgrades from broncos; 28 & 30 spline versions with different bearings sizes (small to larger).

Seen plenty of busted ford 9” stock stuff in my bronco club with lockers and >= 33 tires. Many of them ended up upgrading to tapered roller bearings (handle the side loads a lot better than the stock sealed bearings), HD retainer plates, studs, nodular 3rd, etc.

The H233B compares pretty well strength wise to most 9’s and has stronger shafts (33 spline) and bearings stock. If you upgrade to 35 spline or go with the currie upgrades that's a lot more $ than H233B gears cost but I would mostly likley go that way before a D60 for example. Disk brakes upgrades are pretty common on 9's and affordable.

If you're busting H233B stuff than you need to spend some serious $ IMO on something else one way or the other.

High quality spacers properly installed, maintained, and checked shouldn’t be a problem. You can even upgrade the nissan studs to ford truck ones like axle did I recall. I know plenty of toyota & ford owners who been running spacers for the longest without issues.
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#107531 - 24/01/07 09:59 PM Re: just wondering?
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no 60 recomendations huh?? everyone says no. well i guess not than. Would still like to hear from that guy who has 60s front and rear(kinetic maybe???)
Also would be kinda cool to be able to have 5.29s or even 5.38s... but who know bc u guys are convincing me not to do it...
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#107532 - 25/01/07 12:25 AM Re: just wondering?
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There is a guy on Pirate who is puting Unimog (411?) axles under his Hardbody.... calling it a Unisan [LOL] cool
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#107533 - 25/01/07 12:42 AM Re: just wondering?
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OMG>>>>> im not that crazy hes gonna crawl slower than a babys crawl....
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#107534 - 25/01/07 07:10 AM Re: just wondering?
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Quote:
Originally posted by porsche996:
(PS: Anybody that says the H233B is as strong as a Dana 60 should be dragged out into the street and beaten with their stupid stick...
[Wave]

Bring it big guy!

laugh

No, seriously...look at the ring gear size...the rest, yeah...but conceptually, its not as far off as you think as far as max tire size you'd run.

I agree about the 9" diff...a fav of mine...can't beat a drop in.

laugh

That's why I said the HB is CLOSER to a D60 than a D44, but that a 9" would be sweet.
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#107535 - 25/01/07 07:23 AM Re: just wondering?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Kaiser:
There is a guy on Pirate who is puting Unimog (411?) axles under his Hardbody.... calling it a Unisan [LOL] cool
Could call it Nismog... [Smoking]

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#107536 - 25/01/07 08:31 AM Re: just wondering?
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Quote:
Originally posted by TJ:
Quote:
Originally posted by porsche996:
[b](PS: Anybody that says the H233B is as strong as a Dana 60 should be dragged out into the street and beaten with their stupid stick...
[Wave]

Bring it big guy!

laugh

No, seriously...look at the ring gear size...the rest, yeah...but conceptually, its not as far off as you think as far as max tire size you'd run.

I agree about the 9" diff...a fav of mine...can't beat a drop in.

laugh

That's why I said the HB is CLOSER to a D60 than a D44, but that a 9" would be sweet.[/b]
I'm not allowed to fight retards anymore. [Finger]

Dana 44
Ring Gear: 8.5"
Axle Diameter:
Axle Splines:

Nissan H233B:
Ring Gear: 9.17"
Axle Diameter: 1.31"
Axle Splines: 33 (on the Xterra)

Ford 9"
Ring Gear: 9"
Axle Diameter: 1.33"
Axle Splines: 31
*Pinion has additional bearing for support which adds significant strength under load.

Dana 60:
Ring Gear: 9.75"
Axle Diameter: 1.50"
Axle Splines: 35

In short... H233B is nowhere near as strong as D60... The leap from a D44 to a H233B is almost as much as the leap from a H233B to a D60...

TJ: Quit telling people the H233B is almost as strong as a Dana 60... You're making Nissan owners look stupid. [Too much XOC]

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