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#107951 - 01/04/02 07:40 AM Re: Fixing a bent tie rod centerlink
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[b]why dont you get two of them from EOE, and install them
this way you will never be stranded in the middle of no where becasue of tie rod adjuster bending on you
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(inside joke)[/b]
The pictures Brian sent me this weekend were amazing, I can't imagine the catostrophic failure that would have occured if he had the stock Nissan tie rod adjusters.

Ian I am not sure if the Moog idler arm has rebuild kits but I think they are warrantied for life.
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#107952 - 01/04/02 08:29 AM Re: Fixing a bent tie rod centerlink
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What material are the EOE tie rod adjusters made from?
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#107953 - 01/04/02 09:01 AM Re: Fixing a bent tie rod centerlink
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#107954 - 01/04/02 09:38 AM Re: Fixing a bent tie rod centerlink
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Duh! shocked I guess I should have looked on their site first. I'm still tired from Moab.

Thanks.
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#107955 - 01/04/02 09:43 AM Re: Fixing a bent tie rod centerlink
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I'm still suprised that the EOE got bent but I guess nothing is bullet-proof under the right circumstances. I made a point to check my stock tierod adjusters after I saw the bent one but mine were ok. I must have taken a different line over the obstacle, plus I have smaller tires and less lift.

Apwired,
Big Satruday was fun being with the EJS, it felt like I was in a Parade going down Main Street with everybody lined up waving on the sidewalks.

I heard a few people say things like, "What's that?!"
"That's one of those new Xterra's."
"Are they good offroad?"
"I guess."
laugh

Top of the World was fun, and on the way back we went down Cowskin Canyon and did two river fords across the Dolores River where the water was deep enough I could splash my hand in the water out the door. smile

But overall I had more fun on the GONEMoab runs. It's alot more fun when you're on a trail with friends rather than a bunch of strangers driving Jeeps.
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#107956 - 01/04/02 09:46 AM Re: Fixing a bent tie rod centerlink
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What material are the EOE tie rod adjusters made from?
My review says chromoly. confused

Has the material changed or did I get it wrong ?
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#107957 - 01/04/02 09:56 AM Re: Fixing a bent tie rod centerlink
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I think the only way to never bend or break anything is to stay home. But that would suck so I'll risk it. laugh

Actually I think the strength will be limited to the diameter of the threads.

With out larger diameter tie rod ends your tie rod will probably still be one of the weaker links in the front end.

The only problem is if you make it too strong you will just break something that is harder to replace on the trail.
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#107958 - 01/04/02 10:16 AM Re: Fixing a bent tie rod centerlink
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Originally posted by TK1:
[b]What material are the EOE tie rod adjusters made from?
My review says chromoly. confused

Has the material changed or did I get it wrong ?[/b]
The material was changed to Stainless with the last run of adjusters, this was primarily for the purpose of eliminating any possible corrosion. When I talked with my steel supplier about changing materials they let me know the strengths between the old and new EOE adjusters is virtually the same. I knew someday there might be a failure at the threads if the situation was just right, it's good to know the chamfered edge where the threads start was not a weak link and the adjuster did not break in half.
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#107959 - 01/04/02 12:30 PM Re: Fixing a bent tie rod centerlink
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When I talked with my steel supplier about changing materials they let me know the strengths between the old and new EOE adjusters is virtually the same.
I would verify that with several other experts before sticking with the SS versions. The metals added to SS to make it resist corrosion do not increase the strength, so it's very similar to mild steel like the Nissan rods.

I have beat the shit out of the cro-mo ones, they held up to Golden Crack, which bent, then broke my idler arm.
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#107960 - 01/04/02 01:04 PM Re: Fixing a bent tie rod centerlink
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Originally posted by FSRBIKER:
[b]When I talked with my steel supplier about changing materials they let me know the strengths between the old and new EOE adjusters is virtually the same.
I would verify that with several other experts before sticking with the SS versions. The metals added to SS to make it resist corrosion do not increase the strength, so it's very similar to mild steel like the Nissan rods.

I have beat the shit out of the cro-mo ones, they held up to Golden Crack, which bent, then broke my idler arm.[/b]
I agree, in most applications chromoly will be stronger than stainless.
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#107961 - 17/04/02 08:00 PM Re: Fixing a bent tie rod centerlink
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I am getting a Moog arm Monday, and some new bushings from Mike at AC for the stock one. I have the idler arm brace, and can't use it with the Moog. I will let you all know if the bushings fit. I $10 fix for trashed bushings is much better than buying a new idler all the time. Of course if you bend and break them off like Ian, this won't matter. smile
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#107962 - 18/04/02 08:58 AM Re: Fixing a bent tie rod centerlink
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[/QUOTE]I agree, in most applications chromoly will be stronger than stainless.[/qb][/QUOTE]

Just an FYI: The stainless we are now using is heat treated so in fact they are even stronger than any of the previous versions.
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#107963 - 18/04/02 09:11 AM Re: Fixing a bent tie rod centerlink
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As of when? Did the set I got last week come from that batch?

Brent
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#107964 - 18/04/02 09:23 AM Re: Fixing a bent tie rod centerlink
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Originally posted by FSRBIKER:
I agree, in most applications chromoly will be stronger than stainless.[/QUOTE]

Just an FYI: The stainless we are now using is heat treated so in fact they are even stronger than any of the previous versions.[/QB][/QUOTE]

Cool

One question though, are the parts heat treated after machining or is the raw material heat treated?
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#107965 - 18/04/02 10:10 AM Re: Fixing a bent tie rod centerlink
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They material is heat treated before machining. Brent I honestly am not sure which ones were sent to you, right about the time of your order we were making the new batch but either way you should not have any problems with them.
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