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#167631 - 20/06/07 07:22 PM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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Originally posted by Weasel:
Before the rest of the Klan shows up here is a better explanation of how most people feel.

Black people vs nigga@

"Everytime black people wanna have a good time ignant ass nigga@ show up and fuck everything up."
Not heard that bit before. I like it.
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#167632 - 20/06/07 07:26 PM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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Originally posted by Weasel:
Before the rest of the Klan shows up here is a better explanation of how most people feel.

Black people vs nigga@

"Everytime black people wanna have a good time ignant ass nigga@ show up and fuck everything up."
Favorite bit from Chris Rock. And its really sad and true. Most of the black people I associate with are well educated or have some real good common snese. Hell at my job in the 8 years I have worked here only one black man could cut it for longer then 6 months. And he was a retired colonel from the Army.
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#167633 - 20/06/07 08:02 PM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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Originally posted by GrayHam:
cool

Where's mah fuckin' popcorn?
No way man. Y'all needs some of dese:



I don't believe it's a race thing entirely. It's a social thing. Minorities are raised by other minorities with preconceived social mores that get passed down.

Take a black kid as a baby and take him out of the environment with all its racial history, social preconceived notions, and away from rap music, and you have someone no different than anyone else. Same goes for middle easterners, asians, and white people.

Still, most riots in this country are started by blacks. It's not because they're black, per se. It's because they've been socially conditioned to react a certain way. In this case, it's a destructive way, and unless there are more role models with the same shade of skin (sad but true), this will continue generation after generation.

Blacks raised by niggas turn into niggas.
Whites raised by rednecks turn into rednecks
Middle Easterners brainwashed by other radical muslims turn into radical muslims.

See the pattern?

You can't condemn a whole race of people for the actions of a few. Hell, my boss is a black guy, and he's one of the more intelligent people I know. He's ex Navy and a stand up decent guy. You wouldn't find someone like him acting in this way.

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#167634 - 20/06/07 08:06 PM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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[b]I'm glad this made the news. Let's see how Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson handle this. :rolleyes:
They won't. wink [/b]
Just like they won't retract all the bad things they said about the Duke players that were found innocent of raping that girl.
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#167635 - 20/06/07 09:09 PM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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If you send out signals to folks that you don't belong, they'll make sure you don't. I think it's in peoples' nature to destroy others, especially if you don't fit in. But I also think that some folks are more prone to violence than others.

Persecute me all you want, but answer this: How many races are still living in the jungles and pounding drums? I can think of one. How many races still believe that it's cool to eat your neighbors in triumph believing that you'll gain their strength? One comes to mind. How many races live in a modern, civilized society but believe that sacrificing chickens will place a religious curse on their opponents? Hmmmm. How many races believe that it's OK to sacifice your life, and take out as many others as possible, in the name of your supposed god and that you'll have a host of virgins waiting for you in the afterlife? Are you kidding me?

I believe that it's encoded within the DNA of some races to act first (e.g., emotion, fight or flight, etc.), and to think later (e.g., intelligence, rational thought, etc.), or to not think at all (e.g., it's god's will, it's what the holy book dictates, etc.).

As with anything, there are exceptions and some individuals are destined to rise above others, regardless of what color they wear on the surface of their skin. Some individuals are also destined to live life scraping by, intentional or not. Regardless of what an individual may believe, we all have ten fingers, ten toes, and we ALL bleed red.

Who knows, maybe this is a result of hundreds of years racial persecution. Maybe it's also a result of tens of thousands of years of evolution, survival of the fittest, etc. I do know that I don't have the answer. I'm just trying to get through life unscathed.

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#167636 - 20/06/07 09:14 PM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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[QB]How many races still believe that it's cool to eat your neighbors in triumph believing that you'll gain their strength? One comes to mind.
Uh...which one comes to mind?

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How many races live in a modern, civilized society but believe that sacrificing chickens will place a religious curse on their opponents? Hmmmm.
Wait...so that's based on race, not religion?

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How many races believe that it's OK to sacifice your life, and take out as many others as possible, in the name of your supposed god and that you'll have a host of virgins waiting for you in the afterlife? Are you kidding me?
That's race? hmm...could have sworn it was based on religion (or the bastardization of religion, as it were)

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I believe that it's encoded within the DNA of some races to act first (e.g., emotion, fight or flight, etc.), and to think later (e.g., intelligence, rational thought, etc.), or to not think at all (e.g., it's god's will, it's what the holy book dictates, etc.).
[Huh?] Good God...
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#167637 - 20/06/07 09:59 PM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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[QB]How many races still believe that it's cool to eat your neighbors in triumph believing that you'll gain their strength? One comes to mind.
Uh...which one comes to mind?

I ate my neighbor, it made my breath stronger.

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How many races live in a modern, civilized society but believe that sacrificing chickens will place a religious curse on their opponents? Hmmmm.
Wait...so that's based on race, not religion?

Well, I've seen an awful lot of caucasians do weird rituals that they think help their favorite team win baseball or games...not sure if a chicken is the important part...its the belief that a ritual might grant you luck I think...

A saw a white guy "knock on Wood" for example...

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How many races believe that it's OK to sacifice your life, and take out as many others as possible, in the name of your supposed god and that you'll have a host of virgins waiting for you in the afterlife? Are you kidding me?
That's race? hmm...could have sworn it was based on religion (or the bastardization of religion, as it were)

Well, all religeons for the most part, but each has a different version of the rewards....I mean, virgins are popular in that part of the world....I think because of all the sand, ouch.

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I believe that it's encoded within the DNA of some races to act first (e.g., emotion, fight or flight, etc.), and to think later (e.g., intelligence, rational thought, etc.), or to not think at all (e.g., it's god's will, it's what the holy book dictates, etc.).
[Huh?] Good God...
I think that's ALL races...not just the Cranky Old White Republicans from the Bible Belt you seem to be referring to.

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#167638 - 20/06/07 11:38 PM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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[b]Whens the last time this happened in a white neighborhood? Oh yeah, maybe its because we could never have a WHITE holiday/celebration.
What the fuck are you talking about?

I don't remember Bing Crosby dreamin' about no Black Christmas![/b]
Are you really that much of a fucking moron?![/b]
I thought it was clever. Get it? White Christmas? YOu said there were no white celebr....you know what? Nevermind. I'll spoon feed it to ya next time, Corky.

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#167639 - 21/06/07 03:12 AM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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Originally posted by BurgPath:
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Originally posted by Shahram:
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Originally posted by BurgPath:
Whens the last time this happened in a white neighborhood? Oh yeah, maybe its because we could never have a WHITE holiday/celebration.
What the fuck are you talking about?

I don't remember Bing Crosby dreamin' about no Black Christmas![/b]
Are you really that much of a fucking moron?![/b]
I thought it was clever. Get it? White Christmas? YOu said there were no white celebr....you know what? Nevermind. I'll spoon feed it to ya next time, Corky.
You'd think with your history on here you'd understand that sarcasum is often lost on a message board. Next time include a smiley or something to show that your not actually that stupid but simply making a toungue in cheek comment.

So in that light, 'ha ha, funny'. smile [Spit]
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#167640 - 21/06/07 03:53 AM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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Desert Rat's comments are among the few reasonable ones in this thread. To break any social cycle - poverty, ignorance, fanatic suicide bombers, whatever - the only way to do that is to remove children from the environment where they become in effect brainwashed into thinking that course in life is natural. If you're raised chanting "Death to America! Death to Israel! My destiny is death for the benefit of Allah!", then that's your baseline, your definition of "normal".

That occurs in every nationality and race. Ever see these KKK types who have their kids dressed up in the robes and pointy hats? How is that different from the black child who is raised with a victim mentality and convinced that whites are responsible for his lot in life? Both are extremes and both define the kind of life the child will live.

How you get kids out of that environment is beyond me. The only hope is that when they grow up and start reasoning for themselves they realize what a dead-end way of thinking it is.

Blaming a whole race of people for the acts of a few makes as little sense as honoring a whole race for the achievements of a few.

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#167641 - 21/06/07 05:22 AM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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I'm glad this made the news. Let's see how Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson handle this. :rolleyes:
I rarely put my .02 in on these subjects, I just sit back and enjoy the pointless threads, and notice which people I would not care for in real life... laugh

Can we turn this around.... Can a black guy drive through my neighborhood and and hit a white boy? And what if A mob of white people beat a black man to death? Those 2 "racists against white people" would form a million man march to burn and riot and mob and rape that community for justice...to be honest, a MAJORITY of the "African American" race bring this upon themselves with these kinds of acts. Why do people argue this? Like when white people are associated with being dumb white crackers, who like there huntin or what not... We laugh it off... It's becoming a one sided deal that being white causes you to be hated by the black race. And racism is a 2 sided debate when it comes to inner city black people...Cause it's ok to hate white people :rolleyes: Sorry, just my opinion

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#167642 - 21/06/07 05:44 AM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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...to be honest, a MAJORITY of the "African American" race bring this upon themselves with these kinds of acts. Why do people argue this?
According to Census Bureau figures , in 2006 there were 299,398,484 people in the U.S., of which about 38 million are black. So you're saying that over 19 million black people ("a MAJORITY") "bring this upon themselves with these kinds of acts"?

"People argue this" because it's a position you can't possibly support with facts.

With that said, I agree for the most part with your assessment of what would happen if the situation were reversed.

(edited to add Census Bureau link)

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#167643 - 21/06/07 06:02 AM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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Well this was on MSN.com this morning. So it has now made the national news. Wonder if this is gonna end up on Boortz or Rush this week
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#167644 - 21/06/07 06:07 AM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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Whether it's the majority or not, is irrelevant. The problem is, the perception is that it is the majority of blacks who bring upon themselves.

Blacks (especially "black leaders") should know by now that perception is everything in this country. Kobe Bryant allegedly rapes a white woman (yeah, I called bullshit on that one from the getgo), everybody's ready to throw him out with the bathwater. He's found innocent, drops 82 points in the bucket, and he's the greatest player in the game again. All about perception.

Until blacks get the idea that things should focus on the positive role models that come from that community, and not the next Yung Joc to come out saying, "Nigga dis, nigga dat", or "Bitch betta b ready.", the perception will always be unruly, animalistic, thug.

Now, about that whole Asians are good at math thing.. laugh
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#167645 - 21/06/07 06:19 AM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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I wanted to stay out of this one but ill jump in.

Regardless of your skin color every ethnic background has people that are of a lower social and economic class. Last time I visisted family I would classify many of them as "white trash." Not rednecks but bonna fide trash that should be removed from society because they bring the rest of us down.

People like GEN. Colin Powell, Frederick Douglass, George Washington Carver, and the list goes on simply shows that one can change their future if they have the drive and desire to do so...that is why this country is so great.

These days it is not a single race or ethnic issue it is a whole nation issue. My wifes family are exceptionally hard working and live in a nice area of Mexico City...they earned it.
However, many young people now just want a hand out or the easy way. They do not know respect, or work ethic and that is parents fault. Parents are scared to discipline kids now because some loud mouth will report them to CPS. Give me a fucking break. My dogs are more well behaved than many kids I see running around stores now...ive said that to parents while in these stores as well...kinda pisses them off too!!!!

Someone mentiond the whole religon thing. Well here is a bomb for you. Granted now a days the Islamic faith gets the bad press but that is a small percentage of the over 1.3 billion muslims in the world. Arab culture is so radically different from ours but time will bring a change.

Back to my point from above. If my history lessons arent too fuzzy then the Catholic Church is the root cause for some of the greatest events of human suffering ever. 1st, 2nd, 3rd crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, witch trials all over Europe and America, and lets not forget that the Catholic Church appeased a guy named Adolf Hitler in his efforts to exterminate Europes Jews, Homsexuals, Gypsys, mentally ill persons, and people born with disfigurements. In fact when the crusades happened the Europeans were still drilling holes in peoples heads to "release the evil spirits" while Arab doctors were performing life saving surgeries....many Europeans retained the services of Arab doctors during the crusades.

You see the moral and ethical decay of this country is the reason events like that happen. There is no one specific cause for this but a large part is to blame on the liberal ideology of a free open more socialist society where one can do "as they feel." Do you think all those people wanted to build that damn pyramid in the buring hot sun????? This country tries too hard to make an excedingly small minority politically viable while expensing the vast majority. Everyone here has the same rights so why cave in so much????

If you all are so appaled at this event and others like it then get off your ass and vote for change.

[END RANT]

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#167646 - 21/06/07 06:34 AM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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Origami Gangsta, you make a valid point, which brings us again to what makes "news". Had the people who beat the man to death instead been understanding and helpful, we wouldn't be having this discussion because that's not news.

Many people don't take the time to look past the superficial crap we're fed every day from various sources. That was my point in citing the census figures - it's clearly ridiculous to claim the majority of black people act this way, but that perception has been created in some people by what we see, read, and hear.

I live near Atlanta, where blacks and whites play 52 Pickup with a whole deck of race cards every day. An example: the police chief in Atlanta is black. There's a case going on where Atlanta narcotics officers lied to get a warrant and then broke down the door of a 92-year-old black woman's home. She had nothing to do with drug dealing and no idea what was going on. While they were tearing the burglar bars off her front door she retrieved a rusty old pistol she had and fired one shot. The cops killed her with a hail of return fire.

As they should be, the officers involved have been charged with various crimes. But...if the police chief was white I have no doubt that Jackson, Sharpton, et. al. would be on the steps of City Hall screaming for his head. Instead he gets a pass. For those "leaders" to be taken seriously by people of all races, they have to be fair - they have to call out blacks as well as whites (or any other race) when someone is incompetent, demonstrates bad judgement, or makes critical mistakes. That's not racism, it's reality.

Let your perceptions be formed by reality.

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#167647 - 21/06/07 06:40 AM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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Young black men need to take a page from the Will Smith rags to riches with out cussing and using nigga dis nigga dat in every song. Now I know he has cussed in some movies but the majority of the stuff he does is minus cussing and all that.
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#167648 - 21/06/07 07:07 AM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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Have any of you turned on BET or MTV lately?

The black popular culture GLORIFIES this type of behavior. They basically believe that "it's kool in 'da hood to be dumb as a rock, and yous niggas aint cool unless yous gots a heater and sling dope and smack bitches!"

Pimps, hoes, guns, violence, and drugs is all black children grow up hearing, so what do you think they'll turn out to be like? Black people bring this on themselves. I live in a predominantly white town. However, The majority of black people that live here are doing nothing to benefit this community. I am willing to bet that 9 out of 10 black people here don't work, collect welfare, and are criminals. I'm not going to lie they piss me off a lot. Black people aren't the ones who piss me off though. It's the niggers that ruin it for the whole race. The same way fanatically muslim terrorist ruin it for the whole Arab race.

There are some black people out there who are educated and act like human beings, but they are hidden in the shadow that is created by the "gangsta" culture that is enveloping the rest of the black race. As long as the niggers are still out there living like packs of dogs, and not human beings, there will always be this prejudice. They DO in fact bring this on themselves.

And Memoresto is right, why is it ok for black people to hate white people and be very expressive of that, but yet one white person yells nigger and he is very much prosecuted??

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#167649 - 21/06/07 07:30 AM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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Originally posted by Big Daddy Chia:
Young black men need to take a page from the Will Smith rags to riches with out cussing and using nigga dis nigga dat in every song. Now I know he has cussed in some movies but the majority of the stuff he does is minus cussing and all that.
As I understand it, the real rags to riches story was Uncle Phil's. Will just got ride on his coat tail after he got in one little fight and his mom got scared.

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#167650 - 21/06/07 07:44 AM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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What I can't stand is when people think I'm a racist because I don't want to hang out with a person who is non-white. It's simple really, I surround myself with intelligent people and not assholes... one of my best friends in high school was black, I had a black room mate who was a cop, I have black friends now, along with Mexican, Asian, Middle Eastern, etc..

If you are an asshole, I'm not going to hang out with you. In my town, that means that there are more white assholes than any other color. Do I get labeled for not hanging out with them? No. As soon as I make a non-racisct comment about someone who isn't white, then people automatically think I'm racist. Whatever. I am sick of it.

We need to focus on ridding the country of assholes. If those assholes happen to be black, white, green, purple, or whatever, then so be it.
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#167651 - 21/06/07 07:44 AM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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[b]Young black men need to take a page from the Will Smith rags to riches with out cussing and using nigga dis nigga dat in every song. Now I know he has cussed in some movies but the majority of the stuff he does is minus cussing and all that.
As I understand it, the real rags to riches story was Uncle Phil's. Will just got ride on his coat tail after he got in one little fight and his mom got scared.[/b]
LOL, that was good. "West Philadelphia born and raised on the playground is where i spent most of my days."
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#167652 - 21/06/07 08:01 AM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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You see the moral and ethical decay of this country is the reason events like that happen. There is no one specific cause for this but a large part is to blame on the liberal ideology of a free open more socialist society where one can do "as they feel." Do you think all those people wanted to build that damn pyramid in the buring hot sun????? This country tries too hard to make an excedingly small minority politically viable while expensing the vast majority. Everyone here has the same rights so why cave in so much????
Exactly, which is why I brought up Sharpton and Jackson. Their basis of reasoning is so out dated and doesn't relate to this century. All it does is continue to degrade themselves and bring out bad opinions like what Chia has said. I've said it all along... we will always have racism as long as we are forced to treat people unequally. That includes affirmative action, BET, and all the other special treatments.
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#167653 - 21/06/07 08:24 AM Re: And black people wonder why people look down upon them
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All I know is, if I meet you face to face, I don't even see your skin color. If after a meet you and I decide you're an ass, then you're an ass. It's that simple.
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