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#203897 - 10/08/03 05:07 AM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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[b]Nearly 2 years after 9/11, and we still don't have the man who was ultimately responsible for it in custody or in a grave.
Simply drive to the White House.[/b]
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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#203898 - 10/08/03 07:43 AM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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[b]
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Originally posted by TatsuoX:
[b]Nearly 2 years after 9/11, and we still don't have the man who was ultimately responsible for it in custody or in a grave.
Simply drive to the White House.[/b]
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: [/b]
Didn't you know? Osama was visiting. laugh [Wave]
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#203899 - 10/08/03 08:30 AM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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Originally posted by xoc:
[b]
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Originally posted by TatsuoX:
Nearly 2 years after 9/11, and we still don't have the man who was ultimately responsible for it in custody or in a grave.
Simply drive to the White House.[/b]
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: [/b]
Didn't you know? Osama was visiting. laugh [Wave]
He was dressed up like Hillary Clinton laugh
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#203900 - 10/08/03 12:22 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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""Simply drive to the White House.""

Boy, you are one bitter little dude.

Once again, you are way off, and once again you shouldn't even be opening your trap, since you don't vote.

It's the third annual be a prick right before GOX summer event again isn't it? Anyone else see a pattern here?

You poor thing. [LOL]
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#203901 - 10/08/03 12:27 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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[b]Nearly 2 years after 9/11, and we still don't have the man who was ultimately responsible for it in custody or in a grave.
Simply drive to the White House.[/b]
Aww, the bitter ramblings of a non-employed, ex-low payed, poorly educated goober.

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#203902 - 10/08/03 01:02 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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Again two people missed reading between the lines, and had to resort to making fun of my employment situation.

Bobby_X if you are going to claim that someone is unedumacated, you might want to check your spelling and grammar before doing so.

Why do you think all these little countries are angry with the USA ? It's because of our policies and our government.

Don't take things so literally.
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#203903 - 10/08/03 02:01 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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Again two people missed reading between the lines, and had to resort to making fun of my employment situation.

Bobby_X if you are going to claim that someone is unedumacated, you might want to check your spelling and grammar before doing so.

Why do you think all these little countries are angry with the USA ? It's because of our policies and our government.

Don't take things so literally.
I have seen you jump on people and make fun of their situations. Join the military, guaranteed paycheck on the 1st and 15th. [Finger] [Finger]
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#203904 - 10/08/03 02:03 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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Join the military, guaranteed paycheck on the 1st and 15th.
They don't hire old people.
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#203905 - 10/08/03 02:05 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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I have seen you jump on people and make fun of their situations.
I only make fun of people who do stupid shit like buying a 2WD SUV.
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#203906 - 10/08/03 02:06 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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[b]Join the military, guaranteed paycheck on the 1st and 15th.
They don't hire old people.[/b]
If you are under 35(???), i think that you are in.
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#203907 - 10/08/03 02:08 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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[b]I have seen you jump on people and make fun of their situations.
I only make fun of people who do stupid shit like buying a 2WD SUV.[/b]
[Crybaby] [Crybaby] Can you afford the gas for your 4x4??????
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#203908 - 10/08/03 03:06 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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Originally posted by xoc:
[b]
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Originally posted by FANOF5:
[b]Join the military, guaranteed paycheck on the 1st and 15th.
They don't hire old people.[/b]
If you are under 35(???), i think that you are in.[/b]
Dude! Ian is like 50! He's been here so long..., well, he's just old.
[Uh Oh !]
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#203909 - 10/08/03 03:42 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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Originally posted by FANOF5:
[b]
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Originally posted by xoc:
[b]
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Originally posted by FANOF5:
Join the military, guaranteed paycheck on the 1st and 15th.
They don't hire old people.[/b]
If you are under 35(???), i think that you are in.[/b]
Dude! Ian is like 50! He's been here so long..., well, he's just old.
[Uh Oh !]

eek eek
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#203910 - 10/08/03 04:22 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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next time someone makes a stink about how bad they dont want America involved in the war in Iraq think about this.

The American soldier who pulls home a measley paycheck
The American soldier who dies and doesnt know why
The American soldier who lives with constant heat and sand and misery
The American soldier who isnt involved in politics and has no say in when where or why
The American solider who hasnt seen his girflriend/wife/children/parents/friends in 9-13 months
The American soldier....wonder how bad he wants to come home

Go ahead and argue who was right and who was wrong. Like i said its beating a dead horse. The Iraqi people (cept for the zealots) are generally happier now. If for nothing else it was worth it. I know alot of people over there most of my graduating class from VFMC is over there right now.
This whole post sickens me
Its the worst kind of Spin ive ever seen.
Welcome to the new age Rhetorical Press.
Oh and just so you know Bush doesnt fool me, Clinton doesnt fool me I know the truth They are all slimbag politicians but their also doing the best they can do in the office WE elected them too.
have a nice life
BoneCrusher,

What's your point?

Soldiers are PAID to DIE. That is what they do. I think most of them sign up just so they get a free ride to college.....j/k. What do you(they) think the word soldier means? They are paid to take orders, to fight, and to kill or be killed. That is the nature of the job. We get too complacent when there is no war/conflict every twenty years....they soldiers get too "comfy" thinking, "shit there will never be a conflict; plus I get to go to school for free." War is hell, but that is why they signed up to be soldiers. Don't join the bomb squad if you don't want to detinate bombs......

The military is no different than any poorly run big corporation. The higher up you go, the less you do. The soldiers do the grunt work, while the generals call the plays from Washington,DC. If they wanna bitch, take it up with the chain of command.

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#203911 - 10/08/03 04:30 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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Originally posted by TatsuoX:
[b]Nearly 2 years after 9/11, and we still don't have the man who was ultimately responsible for it in custody or in a grave.
Simply drive to the White House.[/b]
Ian,

What does that mean???

Clinton was the one alseep at the wheel when he had a chance to get bin Laden.

You think they had all the logistics down in 8 months while GW was President to do 9/11? Think again...... It started years before.

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#203912 - 10/08/03 04:45 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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Simply drive to the White House.
Man that's so true. Now I know a lot of you Americans love your country, and think the Mr. Bush is always right, and the best president ever (The Germans thought of the same thing about Adolf when the Nazi ruled Germany, truly believing that Jews are the worst people and needed to be eliminated). But have you ever wondered what happens when you pick on smaller countries and they don't have the military power to fight back? No shit they are gonna pull off a bunch of cheap shots!

Why do you care about other countries so much anyway? Is Bush their parent or something? NO, your president is doing that simply because he wants to, and has the power to do so. The USSR was a lot worse and violent than Iraq or Yogoslavia back then, but how come none of your presidents even attempted to put a new government into USSR and free the Russians from the harsh communism? Because the government knew USSR was tough and therefore harder to pick on. Iraq is a lot easier to fight. The same reason why the tough guys in the school never picked on tougher guys, but the smaller less popular kids.

A lot of you need to spend part of your life out side of your little state (regardless of your employment status), and see the world from a different angle(yes, there are other countries in the world other than US). Go live in a communist country like N Korea and hear about what they think of you, then you'll have a much fuller understanding about how the world really functions. A lot of you simply do not have the ability to even understand why your country is getting terrorism because you are simply putting all your faith into your government. If Iraq is so bad, why doesn't anybody crash a plane into their building?

Now, about elections and democracy. That's easy to say when your current government is elected in the first place: loosing to another party don't cost much. But in some countries, the government was obtained by the cost of the blood from 10 million citizens. Do you really think they'll happily pass it onto someone else four years later? Not every country in the world function like yours. And no, I'm not saying all this because I live in Canada, I'm saying it because I DON'T LIVE IN USA.

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#203913 - 10/08/03 05:31 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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Simply drive to the White House.
Man that's so true. Now I know a lot of you Americans love your country, and think the Mr. Bush is always right, and the best president ever (The Germans thought of the same thing about Adolf when the Nazi ruled Germany, truly believing that Jews are the worst people and needed to be eliminated). But have you ever wondered what happens when you pick on smaller countries and they don't have the military power to fight back? No shit they are gonna pull off a bunch of cheap shots!

Why do you care about other countries so much anyway? Is Bush their parent or something? NO, your president is doing that simply because he wants to, and has the power to do so. The USSR was a lot worse and violent than Iraq or Yogoslavia back then, but how come none of your presidents even attempted to put a new government into USSR and free the Russians from the harsh communism? Because the government knew USSR was tough and therefore harder to pick on. Iraq is a lot easier to fight. The same reason why the tough guys in the school never picked on tougher guys, but the smaller less popular kids.

A lot of you need to spend part of your life out side of your little state (regardless of your employment status), and see the world from a different angle(yes, there are other countries in the world other than US). Go live in a communist country like N Korea and hear about what they think of you, then you'll have a much fuller understanding about how the world really functions. A lot of you simply do not have the ability to even understand why your country is getting terrorism because you are simply putting all your faith into your government. If Iraq is so bad, why doesn't anybody crash a plane into their building?

Now, about elections and democracy. That's easy to say when your current government is elected in the first place: loosing to another party don't cost much. But in some countries, the government was obtained by the cost of the blood from 10 million citizens. Do you really think they'll happily pass it onto someone else four years later? Not every country in the world function like yours. And no, I'm not saying all this because I live in Canada, I'm saying it because I DON'T LIVE IN USA.
Now this is the biggest bunch of bullshit I have ever read in my life. You completely run around the subject that somehow Bush is to blame for 9/11.

Did you ever hear of the Cold War? Last I looked Reagan won it and freed the Russians from thier harsh communism.

Comparing this country and Bush to Hitler and Nazi Germany is both offensive and asinine. Unless we replace 'jews' with 'Canadians'. (now thats offensive)

Its just like all you liberal pussies out there to justify bad behavior by bringing up other behaviors. Its just like all you liberal pussies to always shy away from the hard tasks because you are afraid you might offend someone else. I bet if someone raped your sister you wouldnt go after him because you would be afraid his family might hurt you.

Do you think we (as Americans) should really give a rats ass about what other countries think of us? I think maybe they should care about what we think of them. Just because the people in N korea hate us, does not mean we don't "fully understand" how the world functions. Liberals, in your infinite wisdom of non-offensive behavior, become the biggest hypocrites in the world when faced with real offensive behavior, such as the repressive regimes of N Korea and Iraq, to name a few.

I fully understand why countries attempt terrorist acts against us. To understand why still does not make what they do right. To simply stop what we are doing in the world because we fear what terrorists may do would open a can of worms and plunge this world into a future of extremist, repressive ideologues.

Now the irony of this is that who will the world be calling on if this happens? Not Canada.

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But in some countries, the government was obtained by the cost of the blood from 10 million citizens. Do you really think they'll happily pass it onto someone else four years later? Not every country in the world function like yours.
What are you trying to say here? Of course not. Because a regime murdered scores of people to come to power somehow that should exempt them from answering for those atrocities? It has nothing to do with how our country functions. I guess by "they" you are refering to those in power. But if "they" are the survivors, you bet your ass they are glad to see us.

Stay up there in your socialist paradise while we carry you on our backs for another 50-100 years. [Finger]
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#203914 - 10/08/03 05:53 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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Do you think we (as Americans) should really give a rats ass about what other countries think of us?
They know you don't give a shit, that's why they crash a 767 into your building laugh (and even then just hoping you'll atleast give some shit)

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To simply stop what we are doing in the world because we fear what terrorists may do would open a can of worms and plunge this world into a future of extremist, repressive ideologues.
Ahhh, Americans, what would be the world like without them? Uhmm, lets see, freedom of government, freedom of trade and best of all, free from fear. Do you really think your government is trying to improve the world? Democracy my ass, Bush is only Democracy towards you americans 'cause he need your votes to maintain his job and feed his family. I don't see shit democracy when you are dealing with other countries (Hey Saddam, make your citizens vote to see if we should attack your country)

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What are you trying to say here? Of course not. Because a regime murdered scores of people to come to power somehow that should exempt them from answering for those atrocities? It has nothing to do with how our country functions. I guess by "they" you are refering to those in power. But if "they" are the survivors, you bet your ass they are glad to see us.
That's okay if you don't understand, don't expect you as an American to understand how other countries function or what their history is like.

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Did you ever hear of the Cold War? Last I looked Reagan won it and freed the Russians from thier harsh communism.
Freed the Russians? Give me a break. You runined their country, they can't even stand up for their communist brother countries no more. Their economy sucks ass because you tricked them. BTW, you never won the war, how can you win if you never fought them?

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#203915 - 10/08/03 06:00 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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RJ...

What would the world be like without Americans???

Ask France or Britian you shitbird....
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#203916 - 10/08/03 06:00 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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[b]Do you think we (as Americans) should really give a rats ass about what other countries think of us?
They know you don't give a shit, that's why they crash a 767 into your building laugh (and even then just hoping you'll atleast give some shit)
[/b]
Say what you will, but that smilie was uncalled for. Trying to be funny, sarcastic, or whatever.
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#203917 - 10/08/03 06:05 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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Clinton was the one alseep at the wheel when he had a chance to get bin Laden.
Clinton had a chance to get him, and the Saudi's refused to nab him. That's not Clinton's fault.

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You think they had all the logistics down in 8 months while GW was President to do 9/11? Think again...... It started years before.
9/11 logistics probably started during Clinton's administration, but it was long before him that the whole idea started.

Really, nobody considered what they did to be something that could happen. Not Bush, not Clinton, not Bush I, not Reagan, etc.

I really don't think it mattered who was in office or what they might have tried to prevent it. If they really want to do it, they could...and still could. Hmmm...let's say someone has an asthma inhaler. Do they check to make sure the real stuff is inside? There's a lot of stuff that seems innocuous to us that could easily be brandished as a weapon.
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#203918 - 10/08/03 06:13 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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"RJ...

What would the world be like without Americans???"

I think we would all be speaking German and debating the new policies of the Nazi party.
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#203919 - 10/08/03 06:28 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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Freed the Russians? Give me a break. You runined their country, they can't even stand up for their communist brother countries no more. Their economy sucks ass because you tricked them. BTW, you never won the war, how can you win if you never fought them?
What are you talking about? The only communist "brother" of theirs still in existence is Cuba. The Soviet Union and China were never that close. North Korea is closer to China than it was to the Soviets.

Those past communist "brothers" of the Soviet union didn't want them standing up for them. Here's a quiz for you... what order did the Iron Curtain fall in? Here's a hint - the USSR wasn't first by a long shot. Hell, Hungary tried to get out in '56, and Czechoslovakia tried to get out in '68.

Good lord, I'm siding with the conservatives... laugh

(On a side note...could you work on your grammar just a tad bit?)
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#203920 - 10/08/03 06:38 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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If you are under 35(???), i think that you are in.
I'm not.
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#203921 - 10/08/03 06:39 PM Re: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
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[Crybaby] [Crybaby] Can you afford the gas for your 4x4??????
Yes, it gets almost the same mileage as a 2WD.
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