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#210381 - 14/07/06 10:59 AM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Originally posted by MBFlyerfan:


Off the top of my head, I cant remember what two countries are on Iran's eastern and western borders, but I am sure it will come to me eventually.
This was sarcasm, right?

Iraq and Afghanistan are to the west and east of Iran. You could say they're surrounded. [Too much XOC]

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#210382 - 14/07/06 11:11 AM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Yes I was being sarcastic.

Iraq, and Afghanistan, why do those two countries sound familiar to me?

If Bush werent such an idiot and could have forseen this problem, maybe he could have found a way to get troops into Iraq and Afghanistan, so when the time came, we could be ready. :p

Let us not also forget that maybe we could have forces stationed south as well, say in Qatar or Kuwait. That would be great too.
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#210383 - 14/07/06 11:16 AM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Please tell me that you are not insinuating that Bush's master plan all along was to place troops in a strategic position to head off any Iranian agression.

I know that there's such thing as foresight but this administration has not presented itself as having the capacity to be the masterfull chess player that your post suggests.
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#210384 - 14/07/06 11:19 AM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Originally posted by Desert_Rat:

You could say they're surrounded. [Too much XOC]
I remember reading somewhere a few weeks ago that we have a tremendous amount of military hardware back over there now.

A lot of aircraft and naval forces that left the region have been brought back and are mobilzed in surrounding countries. Don't forget we have a new base in Uzbekistan also to stage air assaults.

Iran has significantly increased naval activity too. They are getting ready to blockade the Strait of Hormuz. A tremendous amount of shipping goes through there.

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#210385 - 14/07/06 11:23 AM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Originally posted by socalpunX:
Please tell me that you are not insinuating that Bush's master plan all along was to place troops in a strategic position to head off any Iranian agression.

I know that there's such thing as foresight but this administration has not presented itself as having the capacity to be the masterfull chess player that your post suggests.
Hell I thought of it when they invaded. They have plenty of people smarter than me and you at the Pentagon.
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#210386 - 14/07/06 11:24 AM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Originally posted by NY Madman:
By the way, I didn't attack PDX. He attacked me. I've seen his login name before, but I don't recall anything about him, so I wouldn't initiate an attack. We worked out the problems with counseling.

Once again, I didn't attack YOU specifically. Yes I quoted you, but as I said in subsequent posts, my "rant" was directed towards people that regurgitate the "leftys think this, rightys think that" stereotypes. Off-topic - yes, but still relevant to pretty much every controversial thread on this board.

In addition, I felt like you'd lumped me in with Miner Boy...so you can't blame me for wanting to separate myself from his position. laugh

It's a moot point.

My councelor is here.

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#210387 - 14/07/06 11:26 AM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Originally posted by 2001frontier:
Quote:
Originally posted by socalpunX:
[b]Please tell me that you are not insinuating that Bush's master plan all along was to place troops in a strategic position to head off any Iranian agression.

I know that there's such thing as foresight but this administration has not presented itself as having the capacity to be the masterfull chess player that your post suggests.
Hell I thought of it when they invaded. They have plenty of people smarter than me and you at the Pentagon.[/b]
The beauty of politics is that you can say pretty much anything in hindsight to support your position.
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#210388 - 14/07/06 11:30 AM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Quote:
Originally posted by NY Madman:
Don't forget we have a new base in Uzbekistan also to stage air assaults.
This was a HUGE diplomatic coup for us.

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Iran has significantly increased naval activity too. They are getting ready to blockade the Strait of Hormuz. A tremendous amount of shipping goes through there.


We also cannot forget how defiant Iran has been on the nuclear enrichment program of late .... nothing is unrelated in the fucked up web that is the Middle East.

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#210389 - 14/07/06 11:41 AM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Originally posted by FlyFishingX:

We also cannot forget how defiant Iran has been on the nuclear enrichment program of late .... nothing is unrelated in the fucked up web that is the Middle East.
Actually I think today, the 14th, was the deadline for them to respond to the UN Security Council. They wanted an extention until the end of August.

This is another reason why Iran pushed Hamas and Hezbollah to provoke Israel. It takes some of the light directly off of them.

Like the UN Security Council means anything anyway. Saddam taught them all how to ignore and play them for fools.

You can forget about the UN doing anything about Iran and nukes. China and Russia seem to want them with nukes.

China loves that the world's attention is focused on Iran and terrorism (much of which they supply arms). It keeps people from talking about their massive military buildup.

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#210390 - 14/07/06 11:42 AM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Quote:
Originally posted by socalpunX:
Please tell me that you are not insinuating that Bush's master plan all along was to place troops in a strategic position to head off any Iranian agression.

I know that there's such thing as foresight but this administration has not presented itself as having the capacity to be the masterfull chess player that your post suggests.
Master plan? No. But you can be sure it crossed thier minds, hell it crossed my mind when they invaded, and the most experience I have in military strategy is playing Brood War online.

What I find amazing is that it didnt cross everyones mind.
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#210391 - 14/07/06 11:54 AM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Originally posted by NY Madman:
Like the UN Security Council means anything anyway. Saddam taught them all how to ignore and play them for fools.
The UN is a congregation of sycophants, appeasers, and retards. It's completely irrelevant in the world of realpolitik.

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You can forget about the UN doing anything about Iran and nukes. China and Russia seem to want them with nukes.


Russia seems to have this misguided notion that it is still a world power. The country under Putin kind of makes me think of Bob Dole peddling Viagra. Big deal, it can wave its dingy around but nobody cares to share a bed with it.

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China loves that the world's attention is focused on Iran and terrorism (much of which they supply arms). It keeps people from talking about their massive military buildup.


Ah, China .... the real threat to US interests in the long run......

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#210392 - 14/07/06 11:54 AM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Originally posted by MBFlyerfan:

What I find amazing is that it didnt cross everyones mind.
They thought of it. After all, didn't you hear? We're the new Roman Empire. [Huh?]

George Bush is Nero. Bill Clinton is Caligula.

We even have the ACLU as the Praetorian Guard throwing Christians to the lions. [Geek]

Definitely Rome.

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#210393 - 14/07/06 12:09 PM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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From our favorite French sage:

"One can ask oneself whether there isn't a sort of desire to destroy Lebanon," French President Jacques Chirac said of Israeli attacks that have killed 66 people, almost all civilians. "I find, honestly, like most Europeans, that the reactions are completely disproportionate."

:rolleyes:

Oh, and just a friendly FYI, Syria is now officially rattling sabres, saying it has to "defend itself." Here we go .....

"Syria is in confrontation with Israel. It is watching the situation and is ready to defend itself against any eventuality," said Elias Murad, editor of the ruling Baath party newspaper Al-Baath.

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#210394 - 14/07/06 12:13 PM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Syria couldn't defend itself against a bunch of angry 3rd graders. I wonder if nutsack in Iran really want's to give it a go against Israel.
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#210395 - 14/07/06 12:23 PM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Originally posted by 2001frontier:
Syria couldn't defend itself against a bunch of angry 3rd graders. I wonder if nutsack in Iran really want's to give it a go against Israel.
The last time Syria went against Israel in air to air combat in 1982, Syria lost 86 aircraft. Israel lost none.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/syria/index.html

It seems the Syrians don't take care of the hardware they have and their pilots suck. They don't train much or very well.

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#210396 - 14/07/06 12:25 PM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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I like that Israel isn't putting up with this, but Lebanon isn't the right target.

Syria is.

Hmmm....have I mentioned this?

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#210397 - 14/07/06 12:29 PM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Quote:
Originally posted by Desert_Rat:
I like that Israel isn't putting up with this, but Lebanon isn't the right target.

Syria is.

Hmmm....have I mentioned this?
Patience grasshopper .... this is far from over.

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#210398 - 14/07/06 12:53 PM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Quote:
Originally posted by NY Madman:
It seems the Syrians don't take care of the hardware they have and their pilots suck.
Huh, and I heard they made some major strides in technology:



laugh

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#210399 - 14/07/06 12:59 PM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Quote:
Originally posted by FlyFishingX:
Quote:
Originally posted by NY Madman:
[b]It seems the Syrians don't take care of the hardware they have and their pilots suck.
Huh, and I heard they made some major strides in technology:



laugh [/b]
I think its closer to this smile


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#210400 - 14/07/06 01:01 PM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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The Syrians aren't the target either. They are a stepping stone to the real problem, Iran.
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#210401 - 14/07/06 01:09 PM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Originally posted by FlyFishingX:

[QBHuh, and I heard they made some major strides in technology[/QB]
LOL..

They might as well have planes like that if they don't spend the money and take the time to train their fighter pilots for combat.

Hezbollah is said to be using recently produced Iranian RAAD 1 rockets.

http://www.defensetech.org/archives/002582.html

They may have hit an Israeli ship.

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#210402 - 14/07/06 01:14 PM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Do they light them with a match? laugh
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#210403 - 14/07/06 01:14 PM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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A Syrian pilot was seen taking heavy fire this afternoon:


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#210404 - 14/07/06 01:17 PM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Originally posted by 2001frontier:
The Syrians aren't the target either. They are a stepping stone to the real problem, Iran.
I can not for a second believe this happens to be about a couple of kidnapped soldiers, the G8 is on, Iran is in the spotlight ...hmmmm I smell conspiracy.

In any event I hope they focus on Hamas, Hezbollah and Syria, kill the vermin and get ready for Iran. Man there is some freedom adn democracy spreading to be done, too bad GDUB can't cheat his way to another term. We should get a poll going. US "defence" spending in 2007-08 900 billion?. good thing you guys have health care, domestic poverty and education aced.

Just finished watching "Why we fight" nice and liberal objective view on the whole "WE WANT TO BE LIKE THE ROMANS " theory.

and now ladies and Gentlemen, here is whenI hand over the Keyboard to Madman:
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#210405 - 14/07/06 01:18 PM Re: Lebanon and Israel
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Originally posted by 2001frontier:
Do they light them with a match? laugh
The rockets can still kill... and they are.

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=2877

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