Question,

I know a lot of you have 4x4's I was just wondering why do you have them? If you are in a 4x2 why? What made you pick one or the other??

Some of you in 4x2's because you wanted an X and didnt see the need??

Just curious

This should get interesting.

4x2 because I don't do any hard off-roading. Not much of that in flat Louisiana. $2,000 is a lot to pay for something you'll never use.

My serious off road vehicle is also 2WD, but it's the only 2...MTB

4x4, because my farm is located 9 miles off any highway, and those 9 miles are trecherous when we get even half an inch of rain. I also use it to check cows on occasion, so I do some pasture crawling. Add fishing and hunting to that, and four wheel drive is almost a necessity.

4x4 for a couple of reasons.

1. I use it when camping and mountain biking

2. I got a better deal on the 4x4 than I could have on a 4x2 at the time and place of purchase.

4x4. My last vehicle was a 4x2, and my manhood was diminished.

I got a 4x2 because a 4x4 is not needed in urban south Florida, ... and they are hard to find down here anyway. Any impact on my manhood has been compensated by extra $$$ bulging my wallet (, which I keep in my front pocket).

_Lazza

4x2, because I never thought dreamt of going offroad until I found this place and got involved with my local club. Next X will certainly be a 4x4. Unless they make the OR 4x2 with a locker, then I might consider that to save a few grand.

4X4 5 speed
1. Always drove one.
2. Although, unless you are offroad, you may not use the 4X4 much, that ONE time in an emergency road condition that you MAY need to use it MORE than makes up for any cost.
3. Waited until the end of last year and bought one cheaper than most 4X2's.(No one around here wants a 5 speed either!!! Their loss..my treasure!!)
4. Would have bought the 4X4 regardless of cost!

4X4 ....Sooner or later the Poops gonna fly... And Im not gonna wait in anyone's line:) lol

My first X was a 4x2...right away, I regreted NOT getting the 4x4...for some reason, This vehicle cries out for Mud, Rocks, and Sand...traded my sissy 4x2 Xterra for the more versatile 4x4 Xterra...FUN..FUN..FUN..

4x4. Two words: Minnesota Winters

4x4, because if I was going to get a truck, it was going to be a 4x4. And we get a lot of snow in the winter and I use to drive a VW GTI and never could go anywhere in that. With the X I don't have to worry about the weather. I have actually used it a lot more than I thought I would.

I got a 2WD because I did'nt need the extra maintenance, less MPG's and slower acceleration.

My X is an OHV* about 98% of the time

*On Highway Vehicle

4X4: Because I love 4X4ing.

4X4 - Ditto on the weather in SW Michigan. I didn't think I'd actually use it much when I got it, but I've used it a lot more than I thought. I actually look forward to snow now... (am I nuts?)

I got the 4x4 because the 4x2 was a waste of money. The X costs too much and uses too much gas to cripple it like that.

4X4 becouse i go deer hunting every year
in Wisconsin and I don't plow my place there
also 4x4 is very handy after big snow storm in Chicago,all my previous vehicles was 2 wheel drive
My next vehicle will also be Xterra 4 wheel drive
Chris

4x4 because i wanted to wheel it, also new england winters can get nasty, i can go to work and school, since my road doesnt get plowed, i can climb over the snowbanks while people are stuck at home, also i got a good deal on mine since no one wanted a 5spd Khaki xterra

I got the 4x2 because the 4x4 was a waste of money. The X costs too much and uses too much gas to drive around lugging mechanicals I'll never need.

i initially got the 4x4 since i figured it was better to have and not need than need it and not have it. also, price and mpg wasn't off from the 4x2. and thanks to xoc, off roading has become one of my favorite hobbies.

You're already lugging around 700+ pounds that are USELESS because your vehicle is a 4x2.

An Xterra is a rugged vehicle designed for offroad use. That creates a lot of extra weight that you won't find in a CR-V or a Santa Fe.

People who drive an X because they want a cooler looking grocery getter than an Equinox are just wasting gas.....

OK, I'll bite. Look Jeff, It's all a waste of gas. We are Americans, we buy toys we don't need. I don't need my Xterra, I bought it to drive around in a vehicle that I think looks cool - yep - and I do buy groceries in it. What should I get, a corvette that has a big ass LS2 engine, it wastes gas. I know you need 4 wheel drive in CO, but when you go 4 wheeling for fun, do you waste gas? Sure you do, but you want to because you want to burn up fossil fuels doing something you like to do but isn't necessary and is wasting gas, so what, it's all good. I don't need 4 wheel drive, I like the Xterra looks and room inside, none of us "need" an Xterra. Its all OK though we are all different and like diffferent things, different hobbies and things we waste money on.

4x4 because it has a better resale value, and more demand.

Have no use for a 4x4. Most off roading I do is a gravel driveway to my house.

4x2 because the negative equity on my trade in made the 4x4 alot of $$ I'll have as much fun as I can in this one ( and probably learn to drive better) but the next one will be the real deal.

Here we go...

Ummm lets see I live at nearly 10,000 ft in Colorado.

Whatta 'bout me? I live at 19,000 feet!!!

I got a 4x4 because I wanted it. I go off road occasionally at work and at my friends ranch and on boat ramps it comes in real handy. 4x4 is worth it at any cost when you really need it.

4x4. I have a tendancy to stay in a vehicle until the doors fall off and I wanted to make sure I got everything I might ever need.

4x4 because I wanted the capability for snow, offroad, etc. I also learned a lesson about resale values when I owned a 4x2 pickup. 4x4's hold better resale... you get what you put in plus more back on the 4x4 usually. Also did it because I don't feel a 4x2 SUV makes any sense. If I didn't want 4x4 I would have bought a station wagon and had all the same versatility of a 4x2 X plus better gas mileage, better handling, etc.

4x2 I just use mine for trips to Costco and for hauling the kids to and from soccer practice while bitching about the gas mileage

A 4x4 may make more sense where you live, but a 4x2 X will go plenty of places a station wagon won't.

You know, a while back I had a possible relocation to Seattle in the works and checked out your club, only to find this:

< All Xterras in PNWX must be 4WD, no exceptions. >

So you don't even allow 4x2's to join your "Xterra" club. Is this because of your personal bias towards 4x2's as stated above? Just curious.

JeffW wrote:

Jeff, you may want to check your elevation again. There's no place in Colorado that high!

BlueSky - Good homework. We'll have to see where this goes now...

Our requirement for 4x4 in PNWX has nothing to do with anyone's preference or bias. It has to do with 4x4 being a requirement for participating in our events. We have enough trouble getting the 4x4's in a lot of places; last thing we need is the extra trouble and liability of 2WD trucks. There's really no point in joining an offroading club and paying yearly dues if you can't participate in any of the events anyway is there? We don't mean to offend; that's just the focus of PNWX.

I'm not offended at all, and meant no offense by asking the question. Your explanation makes sense; I'm just puzzled over the club being called the Pacific Northwest Xterra Club. That would lead a reasonable person to assume that it's a club for Xterra owners, even those with no need or desire to shoehorn their trucks into mountain goat habitat.

I'm with you BlueSky42...if that's the case, they should change the Club name to the Pacific Northwest 4x4 Xterra Club.

4x4 because of the snow. Living up here I could never get a 4x2 after seeing what mother nature can do in the winter. I live in the middle of nowhere so my road hardly gets plowed. Plus I have snowmobiles and if I want to tow them anywhere I usually have to drive through a ton of snow.

To address the topic here directly, I'm in the same boat as many of the 4x2'ers, just no need for it down here in Jaw-juh, especially at $2000 over a 4x2. I also drive a 5-speed, mainly 'cause I enjoy it, but saving another $800 or whatever it was didn't hurt either.

With all that said...if I was buying used, for example from Carmax, the diff between a 4x2 and 4x4 is far smaller, and in that case, I'd likely buy a 4x4.

That's because I hope to relocate to the Great Northwest and would have a greater need for it. Also, I hear they have an Xterra club there but you can't be in it unless you have a 4x4.

I got a 4x4 because my parents live in central Pa, which usually get's a decent amount of snow. I go to school in Frostburg, MD which is like another world when it comes to snow. I live in west virginia up a mountain. I also have a young daughter and I wanted the security of knowing that I would be able to get her to the hospital in any weather. I have nothing against 4x2, but there have been a few times that I would have gotten stuck without 4 wheel drive. One time I pulled into a friends yard with a steep decline. WHen I tried to back up, I couldn't get enought traction on the pavement to pull out...so for me 4x4 is the thing. And I do a little off roading.....and by the way, does anyone have an extra driver's side step rail (for XE) they'd be willing to sell? I crushed it on a rencent rock crawling trip. I plan to get sliders, but at this time I can't really afford them.

Right on. Living in Chicago more than justifies a 4x4.

Got a 4x2 because I didn't need 4WD. I now have a 4WD because I had tons of trouble with my Xterra and wanted something dependable, and that's best found under the Toyota badge. I still don't think 4WD is at all necessary, but it's fun to play with. Besides, I paid for my whole rig what you're payin' for just a second lever

Snow, mud, and you can go a lot more places than a 2wd.

Well, there's the problem! You're a reasonable person, and none of us are! I see your point, but I don't see us changing the name this late in the game, as that would require a lot of work, but perhaps we could make it more clear on our website? We finally have someone doing our site that has a lot more of a clue than me, so it may come together and make more sense naturally!

I dont know why you guys get so offended when someone tells you how they feel about your truck. Who gives a fuck what Jeff thinks, its your money! Just because he lives in colorado doesnt mean he needs 4wd. Hell, anyone who truly needs a 4wd gets a subaru (like 80% of the locals here in Tahoe; its cheap, gets good mileage and is good in snow). People who buy trucks usually buy them because they dont like cars (like me!). You also cant take a subaru on the type of terrain you can in an xterra.

So what does it all boil down to here? It boils down to people prefering a truck over a car, and also the need to have 4wd. Two major things. thats pretty much it. You bought a truck (i hope because you prefer trucks over cars) and dont need 4wd. Thats fine. Its your money and uhh.... grow some balls next time attacks you for it.

Upstate NY, Lake Effect Snow. I live in a hilly area where I have, 11 winters past, passed cars headed uphill, sitting still, with their tires spinning (glare ice). And I was in a front-wheel drive $h1tbox from hell at the time (they had the same type car, but I had the sense to have enough speed to carry me).

Moved into my 05 X from a (still dependable) Dakota 4x2. With the greasy snow, ice storms & crap we get here, and since I will soon be approaching the age when ending up in a ditch moves from inconvenient to dangerous a LOT faster, I went 4x4 this time. I've proved my driving skills in 2WD, so that's enough.

There was also the time my buddy & I had 3 deer down at once, & my Dakota didn't have the traction to get up the hill... and the deer have been getting heavier for the last few years...

This is my second 4x4 Xterra because I like to go offroad in it and is great in the snow up in northern AZ and in the sand when we go to Mexico.

My last 4 vehicles has been 4WD of one sort or another, including the 2 Audi's. One being 4x4 and the other constant 4WD, there were things of beauty.

Got a 4WD for the snow. Plus, it's so hilly here that I've gotten stuck on wet grass a time or two and needed 4WD to get out.

4x4 because I can't drive my Z in the upstate winter. So, Anna get's the X and I get her VW.

So, now we have a V, W, X, (no Y yet), and Z

My last 3 vehicles have been 4x4, Chevy 3/4 ton, Jeep YJ, and a Tahoe. When I bought my X I just didn't have the extra 2G to spend on 4WD. The only time I ever use 4WD anymore is on the boat ramp and I really don't NEED it then. The occasional trips to CO it helps also but I'll make it alright I think.

If you haven't already bought, don't even THINK about getting a 2WD.

You'll get into this shiat. Trust me.

I got the 4x4 for the snow. I'll be up at 5am after a snowfall and drive to Stowe to get the first chairlift up. At that time the of day the local plows are still trying to get all the snow off the roads.

Honestly I think Nissan should discontinue the 2wd Xterra, it just does not make sense. There are so many better vehicles out there if you dont need 4x4, that getter better fuel milage anyways. A 2wd only leads to image problems for Nissan, disgruntled customers when they realize what they could have had for a few dollars extra and the impossible re-sale of a 2wd off-road vehicle.

When you step up to mostly people movers like the Pathfinder and Armada, a 2wd MIGHT make more sense.

Both.

I originally bought a 4x2 in 2003 because I liked the looks. I figured some mild off-roading wouldn't hurt - and it didn't. Got a sweet deal on it, it was my favorite color (Aztec Red) and people loved it. I modded it some (tires, mild front-end lift, lights), but avoided the more hardcore mods (full lift, bumper, sliders, etc.) because I really didn't feel that they made sense and would be just more bling.

That said, when my daughter totalled my 4x2 last December, there was no question what the replacement would be - my current 4x4. I haven't regretted the switch, even though I've probably only racked up maybe 100 miles of true off-road action in the last 9 months.

Yes, I now get about 17.5 mpg instead of 18.5 mpg around town, and about 17.5 mpg (talk about consistency) instead of almost 20 mpg on the highway, but what the heck.

When it was time to trade my wife's van in on a new vehicle, our first (and only) stop was the local Nissan dealer, where we purchased her 4x2 Xterra. She is the last person in the world that needs 4x4.

However, I don't think there is a better value for the money than the Xterra if you want a mid-size SUV. Therefore, in examples such as this, the 4x2 makes perfect sense. I don't think I could've found another new SUV for under $20k (rebates and incentives) aside from maybe Kia or Hyundai.

Where is that smack in the back of the head ICON?!?!

In our driveway talking to the neighbor.

Thats my kind of neighborhood! No pesky covenants I suppose

Most of the same reasons as the other 4 wheel drive owners have mentioned. 4 wheel drive is one of those things that you may never use, but it's nice to have. I would rarely use 4 wheel drive in AZ, but when you have it you find ways to use it. If you go offroad, like me, 4 wheel drive is the only way to go. It's nice when there's snow on the ground and the roads are bad, that you can still make it out if you need to and you have the opportunity to go skiing or enjoy the snow, when most people can't even leave their driveways. Also if you tow a boat it can be a lifesaver. Some boat ramps are so steep and slippery that a 2 wheel drive might not even be able to pull back up the boat ramp after dropping the boat in the water (I know a friend who "floated" his 2 week old, new GMC Jimmy doing just that). 4 wheel drive is a bit of an investment since it costs a couple grand more than a 2 wheel drive, but with added capability, safety, and better resale value, it's worth it.

4X4 Main reason is to get around in snow, and very inclement weather :rolleyes: .

Especially the ramps where your trailer has to be ropped off the end of the ramp because the water level is low, or the ramps that aren't paved at all! Sometimes it's not just the 4WD either; you need the low range.

Check your PM, got a free one for you if you don't mind the drive.
BRX

I bought a 4x4 for:

1) offroading;
2) the snow in Central NY.

I bought it because I am always prepared. I don't want to be someplace and say "damn, wish I had 4wd". This is actually my first 4wd and have found myself saying the above statement more than once through the years. I figured it was time to do something about it.

I went with the off-road model because of the locker. I had not had any plans of doing serious off-roading, but now that I have found this place, my plans for me new X has changed and I am REALLY glad I did get the Off-Road package.

Funny enough, when I was about to buy I was going back and forth - and it was actually my girlfriend who said "Look, is there a chance that you'll look back later and wish that you'd gotten it? Yes? Well then get it!!!".

She cool

Then 2 years ago I joined the SWXC and it turned into a redneck offroad mod-fest

Nothing worse than getting stuck in 2 feet of snow and not being able to move. The winters here in NY seem to be getting worse and worse.

This is why I got 4x4 and a vehicle with ABLS and VDC.

4x4

a. Upstate NY winters
b. off-roading!

I bought it when living in Upstate NY. They only had 4x4s on the lot (it was while they were trying to get rid of the 2000s and bring in the 2001s). It's nice to be able to drive in the winter regardless of conditions and on poorly kept dirt roads in the summer.

4x4

1. i live in the sticks now, so i need it in case of snow
2. i do occasionally offroad
3. i'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
4. if i'd wanted a 4x2, i would have bought a car.

I went 4x4 for a few reasons.

1) I live in a very hilly area and need it in the winter.
2) I pull a utility trailer to the dump, which can be pretty messy.
3) I use 4WL it when pulling the trailered boat out of the water.
4) I occasionally off-road.
5) I don't want to get stuck anywhere.
6) Buying a 4x2 truck is like buying a 4 cylinder Corvette.

4x2 because I don't do any hard off-roading. Not much of that in flat Louisiana. $2,000 is a lot to pay for something you'll never use.

That is pretty ironic if you ask me.

I have to drive out to the boonies when I go plinking!

Lots of soft sugar sand in FL. With careful driving, you can manage 2WD most of the time... but not always.

Yep, that option did cost more at the time of purchase. However, if you look at older models in the Kelly Blue Book (or others), you'll find the 4x4 is worth about that amount more than the equivalent 4x2 of that year. 4x4s are easier to sell later too. Can't add 4x4 later if you change your mind.

I bought the 4x4 because I wanted to carry up to 4 people with food, gear and water on alluvial fans (Death Valley), logging roads, jeep trails and/or deep snow. In other words, heavy loads on loose or uneven surfaces.

4X4.... cause im not a chick

4x4, Why? Snow, I've always had 4WD can't live without it, snow, mud, snow, hitting some trails when I go camping and snow.

Ok, lets just get this out of the way a 4X2 SUV is purely

Any more questions?

Geez. Another clown that thinks 4x4 makes him a man.

Well, we got 4x4 because it's a good thing to have when you wake up to 6 inches of freak snow. Plus getting out to the slopes and whatnot; makes life a little easier.

4x4 because 4x2 is.......

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It's a truck. 4x4's are trucks, 4x2's are testosterone sucking mini vans.

THATS MORE LIKE IT! I can smell the testosterone coming off the board As a former Montero enthusiast(ok, I still am also, but they are no longer made) I still remember when after decades the introduced a 4x2, and how bewildered everyone was. It was not more then a year or two after before the board was flooded with "why did I make that mistake" or " No one will buy my used 4x2 suv" or "how do I convert to 4x4". Even a Subaru is 4wd, and it does not go off-road. I think there should be no 4x2 suvs, for brand image, and no open rear diff trucks, also for image of the line. Bottom line, if you dont need a 4x4, get something more compatable, with better gas milage. Dont think a 4x2 will handle your " light duty" wheeling, because that will get you stuck. You quickly learn without that 2,000.00 or about 35.00/ month for 60 months, that no front tire turning means no go under the most light duty conditions. Not only that, the truck goes from being an incredible highway/ snow cruiser, to a dangerous rear wheel drive vehicle. Makes no sense. Sorry to insult 4x2 owners, but this is how most here will see it. Everyone makes mistakes Except me of course

4x2 as the most offroading I do is on the gravel shoulder of the road to the never ending gas fill ups at the Exxon.

Somebody hadta say it!

Why waste all that gas for a truck that is just a small, modest minivan?

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Damn Jeff, how long did it take you to do all that? Must have a lot of time on your hands for all that clicking.

So unless you drive down the freeway in 4-hi, you're a polesmoker.

Fag.

I live in Snow country - so I needed a 4X4 - that being said all the ones up here are 4X4 !!!

You 4x4 Nazis - who say 4x2 = - are a riot. Half of you have probably never even had a real occasion to put your truck in 4WD.

Try something novel...like logic. Read this thread and you'll see responses that fall all along a continuum. At one end are those who obviously need 4WD - people who live in the North with snow, or the mountains, or are die-hard rock-crawling off-roaders. At the other end are those who live in a warm climate with flat topography, who definitely DON'T need 4x4. And the rest fall somewhere in between. That's why it's an option, Einsteins.

Besides, a well-driven 4x2 can go ALMOST anywhere you're going in 4WD anyway.

And BTW...my guess is that you guys who are always screaming at anybody you disagree with are probably buying your underwear from Victoria's Secret.

It's true: Me thinks you doth protest too much! Most of the people who claim other people are gay...well, they are usually the ones with "hidden" homosexual urges.

Go drive your 4x4; grab a beer; and hang out with the guys. I'll have some wine; take my wife for a ride in the 4x2; and go see a Woody Allen movie.

First, a 4X2 can go NOWHERE a 4x4 can. An open diffed 4x4 has a chance to go some places, if it has big tires, but that requires full throttle abuse. Try a trail sometime. As far as most of us never using 4x4? Hmm, mine had 800 miles on it when I ran 4+ rated trails in Moab, and there were dozens of others along. And so what if I buy my underwear from Victoria's Secret?

Dont be offended, but I am curious after that last post. How many 4x2 owners are liberal Vs conservative?

Right on Man ..hehehe..All kidding aside, when I bought my X I was unfortunately going as inexpensive as I could. Thus the 4x2. But next time I'll definitely go 4x4. But they better fix the damn look they put on the '05's before I do 'cause I just hate the way they flared the fenders. I can't even explain it, but I don't like the '05 look!

Not true, I did. For 99.9999999% of the 4x2 people though this is not an option.

That being said, I learned my lesson and unless I am buying some silly-fast tarmac killer I will always own vehicles that power all of its wheels. Both my Frontier and my '69 Blazer are 4wd.

Here we go....I think this Thread turned into a "4x2/4x4 War"...my 1st X was a 4x2, and no way these things can go anywhere a 4x4 can go...I can atest to that...I've gotten stuck Mucho times, that I got fustrated and traded it in for a 4x4 X...This thing Rocks...

I have had this crazy 4x2 to 4x4 idea going on in my head but only really as a pipe dream but fill me in on the details if you don't mind! Any pics???

Uuhhh, yeah. That's Jeff, he's not really hiding anything...


He's alright though, he knows why he bought a 4wd.

What you find is the number parts you would have to buy, the custom fabbing of stuff, entire differential replacement, on and on and on...costs generally run too high to be practical, I would guess 10-15K would get her done on an X Better to just learn your lesson, get what you can out of the 4x2 and pick up a 4x4 when you can. And dont feel silly, this question must get asked a 100X each month in 4x4 magazine letters to the editor, and they usually print one response regularly. It would seem reasonable.....

Hey, John Revolta has nothing on him!!!

OK I admit it. But it worked!

After 4x4:

If all I had done was put 4wd in my truck, instead of the countless other mods, it would have run me ~$2000 complete, but I did all the work. But it would have been pointless to make it "just" a 4x4.

The red text in my signature is a hypertext link to my website and plenty of pictures.

That's it! I'm going 4x4, just think what it could do for MY image!

Make you go from flamboyantly gay, to being in the closet and so afraid to express yourself that you have to carry in your hands no less than TWO penile compensators?

Wow I had no idea what I was starting with this thread. I was just asking a question.

See what you started, man...Hey, you making us San Antonians look bad...
I guess it looks like the 4x4's are winning the War...

Yeah. TremorX knows, first hand.

Tremor with 4x2:



with 4x4 now:



Since you're clearly addressing me, I'll reply. That picture is when I took my wife to Vegas last year for her b-day. We both "dressed up" for the occasion. Call people whatever you want, I know you ain't got the cajones to say that sh!t to my face.

bump... I think a coupe of people were looking for the pics in this thread...

Hey JeffW,
man, don't tell me that the Beretta in your hand is only a model 92 9mm or .40 cal. SEMI-auto. Christ, how gay are you? All the real men with the select fire model 93R with semi AND 3 round burst and 25 or 50 round mag know that the 92 is a useless piece of crap. The semi-auto only can never get you through the ambushes and fire fights the 93R will save your butt in. Oh well, mistake on your part buying that useless hunk of metal. I hope you can still get off strokin' your 4X4 though.

Nope.

It's a toy.

The machete is so dull it's about as likely as a broomstick to cut anything.......

If you think a pistol is a useful weapon in a firefight? Spoken like someone who hasn't served. The military issues (real) weapons for a reason.

That pic was taken in my garage. There ain't ambushes in my neighborhood. If ther are in yours, perhaps it's time to think about moving.

Regardless, I'd rather be stuck with a $14.95 useless toy from Kmart than a $20K+ useless wannabe minivan.

Oh, a toy gun and a dull machete.
Poser?
Wanna be?
Or just a complete ass?

I choose a 4x4 because I like to be able to go anywhere I want when I want no matter what. Plus, I live in BFE and when it snows four wheel comes in pretty handy!

LaGrange, huh... That's just right down the road.

Anyways, I went w/ 4x4, because the mileage hit was only 1 MPG on the window sticker, which is negligeable. And there wasn't a price difference between the ones I was looking at. I sacrificed a trim model level, for the 4x4... Big whoop.

It's called a joke.

The complete a$$ is the inbred idiot who can't tell the difference between a gun and a toy.

He spends his time in fear of "ambushes" in his neighborhood.

He also drives a 2wd minivan that looks like a 4x4.

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4x4 versus 4x2 is the same principal as a condom in your wallet. Its better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Tim

You're amazingly full of s***. WTF does liberal vs. conservative have to do with anything? Is liberal another label you throw around (like the rainbow) when someone has a point of view different from yours?

I've been on this board for 4 years longer than you, and have seen many threads like this one. The general consensus is that 4x2 X's are capable off-road aside from the truly hardcore stuff.

But that's beside the point. People buy/drive what they want to and what works for them. If that's 4x4 with sliders, a lift, and a snorkel, great. If it's 4x2 stock, that's great too. It's not up to keyboard commandos like you to decide whose truck is ok and whose isn't. :rolleyes:

X2

Talk about fatuous, prosaic, and profoundly jejune arguments for 4x4! The salient fact is this(and yes, Jeff, put down the machete and the beer and pay attention...if you can): both versions of the Xterra serve their purposes.

You can expatiate and pontificate all you want...but there are a cornucopia of reasons someone buys a 4x2 or a 4x4. Both are valid. Both are sincere. And most importantly, both are part of the XTerra family. Or should be.

And I admit, if I am honest, that if I lived where it did snow on a daily basis...then I would have seriously considered a 4x4. However, Palm Springs, CA does not require a 4x4. It's great around town. It's great on the freeway. It looks terrific--and the wife and kids love it. It handles great on "normal" off-road conditions.

So yes...it works for me! Just as I am sure other 4x2 owners got if for the reasons that suit them. And for the 4x4 owners...I have no gripe with you. Just STOP THE EGREGIOUS AND SPECIOUS ARGUMENT THAT ONLY A 4x4 is Xterra. It's a fallacious and bullshit argument--and takes away from what this owners club should be.

I've never heard that consensus.

4x2's are fine for paved or dirt roads, but unacceptable for offroad. Even 2wds with lockers have significant trouble on small obstacles.

LMFAO!

great point!

for you!

Wow! Those are some mighty big words, I wonder just how many people are truly going to understand...
"And you are a fastiggio. See, I can make up words too!" - Peter Griffin

Or is the ass the one who has lots of time to post many colorful flags on a site, is dumb enough to explain that he is a man based on the vehicle he drives, is stupid enough to post ridiculous photos of himself on an internet site, and then has to defend his masculinity because of those photos? All of this after someone has asked a simple question of why did you buy a particular vehicle.

The point's not how long I've been here, it's that this was debated and settled long before you got here.

What you say may be true...in CO. Offroading is obviously very different depending on topography and climate. So whatever's true where you live must apply everywhere else? Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

If you're talking about 4x2 X's as minivans that are dressed up as 4x4's, I really don't get it. Unmodded 4x4's are identical to 4x2's from the outside except for a couple of center caps and some undercarriage stuff most people won't see or recognize anyway. So in effect, you're dissing your own ride.

And finally, if you can't drive what you want and be cool with others who drive what they want, it IS about ego.

Drivers of this vehicle generally frown on those "poseur" off-roaders who "only" have 4WD. One said, "Why would anyone buy a 4WD minivan dressed up as a 6WD?"

Take it easy Boys and Girls...this is getting carried away here...the Question was "4x2 or 4x4 why did you??"....not "My Xterra is better than yours cause I have a 4x4, so let's rag on the 4x2's"...C'mon, man !!!!

i got a 4x4 so no one on the board would verbally assault me for having bougfht a 4x2

ROFLMAO!!! This is the BTE!!!

I bought a 4x4 because of the winters in the Chicago area(even though they haven't been too bad the past few years :rolleyes: ), Puls, I'm not exactly sure what the point of having a 2wd sport UTILITY vehicle is other than to look cool and save on gas mileage(or you really wanted an X and couldn't afford the 2wd, or you just wouldn't use the 4wd.)

Either way, 2wd or 4wd, the X is a good overall choice for an SUV.

They sure are. That's what makes an Xterra with 2wd so ironic! All dressed up with nowhere to go.......

That's strange - I wonder where all the miles on mine came from if I've had nowhere to go. I sure have enjoyed going all these places that are nowhere.

That may be, but I am still shocked as hell at how far I can go with my truck in 2Hi and my Detroit working its ass off. I almost think I should have done the Detroit before the 4wd conversion.

Is THAT all you got?

Hilarious! Jeff keeps pontificating the same tired, cliched, and deleterious arguments that 4x4 is THE ONLY OPTION. Must admit, though--I admire his sheer stupidity in the face of such overwhelming evidence that belies that fact.

But hell, even though I disagree(and with vociferous intensity)I would probably sit down and have a beer with this guy. He would get me to laugh.

It seems--or at least to me--that this thread has run its course. We love our 4x2. Other folks love their 4x4. Why all the hatred--and the vitriolic screed against anybody that disagrees?

Time to move on....

Holy sh!t!

This mofo is a walkin' thesarus!!!

Beer? lotsa beer here....

http://www.phantomcanyon.com/

http://www.bristolbrewing.com/

http://www.beerme.com/breweries/us/co/index.shtml

4x2 because my fing dad wouldnt let me get a 4x4, seriously a 2005 4x2 offroad is a worthless piece of sh*t. im trading it for a wrangler. i dont care about not having any cargo room i can actually be able to get through my front yard. without having to get towed out by my friends with stock 4x4s and there in 2 wheel drive. seriouslly a 4x2 x is a piece and i fu**ing hate it. anyone wanna come steal it i might pay you.

What's your address and leave the keys in the gas tank door.
thanx

one Question, did your Dad purchase your X ?...cause if he did..you don't have the right to Bitch about it and call him "fing dad"...

I'm with the Rickster here! Some of this stuff is getting way too crazy!

i dont see the big deal here, its pretty funny though. honestly i have a 4x4 and ride most of the trails around here in 2HI! i havent had any problems, to me its actually more fun with the VDC off, letting it go all over the place and throwing mud on the people behind me. now obviously that wouldnt fly in more hardcore off road conditions, but for you typical offroader, i do just fine, and enjoy 2wheeling down the trail more. to each his own. stop flaming eachother, its not like any of us is driving an impala SS right?