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#263329 - 12/11/06 05:06 PM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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Originally posted by TJ:
My guess is that they didn't take the heavy side of the rim, and make it opposite the heavy side of the tire...in fact, it looks as if they might have make the two heavy sides MATCH, as all the weights are right next to each other, a rare balance solution otherwise.

Its unusual to need THAT much weight on that tire....especially all in a row.

laugh
Right, TJ. Tires come with a mark on the sidewall that should be lined up with the valve stem on the wheel, thus aligning the heavy part of the wheel with the lighter part of the tire-requiring much less weight to balance them. One note, though-wheel weights should ALWYS be next to each other. If you get tires balanced and there is a weight at 12:00 and another at 2:00, you need to go elsewhere to balance them-either the machine is out of whack, or (more likely) the technician is new or unaccustomed to dealing with larger tires. Steel wheels usually require more weight to balance than aluminum. Always get a dual-plane balance (weights on both the inside and outside of the rim).
Enjoy!

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#263330 - 13/11/06 06:56 AM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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Thanks everyone for their input.

MMNIAC....thanks for that hookup to Summit. They're back ordered on 3 of them for another 10 days but I went ahead and bought them anyways. 15x8 5" BS should be perfect.

Total shipped to my door.....$157.75......how ya gonna beat that?

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#263331 - 13/11/06 06:03 PM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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I just recently got cragar soft 8's 15x8 with 4.75 backspacing

The tires are BFG A/T 32x11.5x15

PML only and no mud flaps, with shrock bumper and NO RUBBING I think any smaller than 4.75 and theyd rub...

The wheels were easy to find once i realized they did make a 4.75 backspacing in the cragars I called jegs and asked if they could get them the lady was the best! Got me five to my door in 3 days direct from their distrib.

I'll post some pics tomm havent gotten around to taking any yet are you the one who emailed me?

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#263332 - 13/11/06 09:34 PM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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Yeah I was the one that emailed you. I found afterwards that I could get those wheels in 5" BS and went ahead and ordered from Summit Racing. I'd love to see pics though when you get a chance.

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#263333 - 14/11/06 09:02 AM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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MMNIAC Do you have anymore pics of your rig? This is the same rims im looking to get and put on 34's, but I have the 2in. body lift and that might clear the bigger tires and I wouldnt have to trim as much metal as you did. Great looking truck [ThumbsUp]

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#263334 - 14/11/06 09:23 AM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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man, i havent been able to find the soft 8's in anything but a 4" BS. does anyone have a link or a price for the 15x8 with the 5" BS?

ETA. nevermind, i found it.

here

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#263335 - 14/11/06 10:00 AM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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Here are a couple more pics showing the wheels and tires (same place.) The third pic I threw in because it is a great flex shot and helps show why I needed to trim a little extra.



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#263336 - 14/11/06 11:04 AM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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Awsome rig dude [ThumbsUp] How do you like those tires?

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#263337 - 14/11/06 12:06 PM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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here ya go






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#263338 - 14/11/06 02:32 PM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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Exactly what I've been looking for Mark, a Black X with those wheels on it. Nice to know with a PML I can go with 32's. The wheels are on order but I havent decided on tire yet. Think I might go with the 32's, they look great on your X. Nice rig broham [ThumbsUp] Thanks for the pics.

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#263339 - 14/11/06 06:36 PM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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thanks alot that was alot of help i was wondering if they were goin to rub

does anyone have pics or personal thoughts of the 17" black soft 8s?

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#263340 - 14/11/06 06:37 PM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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32's shouldnt rub even without a pml

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#263341 - 14/11/06 06:57 PM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mark Oleksak:
32's shouldnt rub even without a pml
you won't need a pml, but you will need to crank the t-bars.

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#263342 - 15/11/06 08:42 AM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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Quote:
does anyone have pics or personal thoughts of the 17" black soft 8s?
I have the stock 17" rims, here's the deal with that.....the tires are MUCH more expensive, the same tires (BFG AT's) for my 15" x 10.5" rims $500
The tires for the 17"'s over $800

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#263343 - 15/11/06 09:55 AM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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There's people running 32's at stock height with trimming (Removal of all the well plastic).

If a tire is going to hit on compression, a SL (PML, 3", etc...) won't really help....as it stuffs up the same with or without the SL...its really just the ride height that has more room.

The BL is what you need to give uptravel...but really not 'til you go for 33's or larger.

The BS situ is such that the tires stick out more, with les BS...so they hit the fenders on the way up.

If you get a wider rim, it increases where the tire sticks out if the BS remains constant, or sticks out even more if the BS is reduced, etc.

The tricky part is that the IFS and the live axle have totally different arcs they swing through, plus the IFS end's steering functions...so what works up front screws you up out back, and visa versa.

You can get away with less BS out back most of the time...but upfront its more likely to bite you.
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2001 Xterra '03 VG33, SE 5 spd, 305/70/16's, Revolvers, UBSkidderz, Doubled AAL's, 3"SL/2"BL, winch/bumpers, skids, sliders, OBA, Snorkel, pine stripes....

Friends don't let friends drive stock.

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#263344 - 15/11/06 10:57 PM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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Well said ^^^

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#263345 - 16/11/06 11:42 AM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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you won't need a pml, but you will need to crank the t-bars.

for 00-01 yea u have to i think but for 02-04's you shouldnt

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#263346 - 16/11/06 02:16 PM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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The 00-01 and 02-04's have the same metal in the wells, but there is more plastic in the way on the 00-01's...so more (easy) trimming to make them fit.

Cranking to clear tires is a waste if you off road, as they will hit on compression as if there was no crank job anyway......

Just cut off the plastic where it hits...or suck it up and let it "Self Clearance".

laugh

Or get a bL and be done w/it.

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2001 Xterra '03 VG33, SE 5 spd, 305/70/16's, Revolvers, UBSkidderz, Doubled AAL's, 3"SL/2"BL, winch/bumpers, skids, sliders, OBA, Snorkel, pine stripes....

Friends don't let friends drive stock.

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#263347 - 16/11/06 03:09 PM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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PML along with a 2" BL should be sufficient enough to clear 32's w/out trimming on an 04 wouldn't it?

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#263348 - 16/11/06 11:19 PM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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yes definitely

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#263349 - 19/11/06 12:47 PM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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so.....i got the ok to get some soft 8's for xmas. you said you can get the 15x8 with the 5" BS from jegs? i know summit is out of them right now. just to make sure, the 15x8 w/ 5" BS will work good right? ive got 31's on right now. stupid question i know, but i just wanna make sure before i order them.

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#263350 - 19/11/06 01:32 PM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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Everyone says the 15x8 5" BS will work. I ordered mine from Summitt and they're backordered til the 25th. I called Jegs and they don't have the 5" BS at all.

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#263351 - 19/11/06 03:40 PM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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Quote:
Originally posted by Alpine Spirit:
Welcome to bigger more aggressive tires. They normally require a bit more weight. You dont even want to see what my spare 35" has on it!!!

Looks good Garrett now get those damn parts in! wink
[LOL] My left rear wheel has 18 oz of weight on it to balance it [Too much XOC] Gotta love those 35s wink

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#263352 - 21/11/06 08:04 AM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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well, i ordered my soft 8's last night. 15x8 w/ 5" BS. will take pics in a few weeks after install.

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#263353 - 23/11/06 02:38 PM Re: Pics of Cragar Soft 8 on an X??
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I am looking to get the Soft 8's as well. Just wanted to make sure that the following with fit a 2001 w/PML running 31x10.5x15". Thanks

Rim Diameter (in): 15 in.
Rim Width (in): 8.00 in.
Backspacing (in): 5.000 in.
Offset (mm): +12.00mm

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