So I bought an Xterra a couple days ago. When I bought it, it had a set of Nismo's on it. They told me when I bought it that they'd have to swap the wheels for the stock ones at some point, because the Nismo's are aftermarket, and were just on the X I bought for display purposes. Since I've already bought the truck, do they really have the right to take them back? I'm new to Nissan's, and prior to Sunday I had never even heard of Nismo's. Should I fight to keep these?

Nothing in writing? They delivered it like that, that's the way it comes. When we bought my wife's Altima, it was a dealer trade. They didn't know it, but the dealer they traded it to used it as their show model, it had wood grain (which we took off), fog lights, in cabin microfilter and a few other bells and whistles. They made the deal though, so we took the car.

Swap them at some point? What do they expect, you drive around with those then whenever they order stock you bring it in for a swap? Sounds shady. I say keep them, tell the dealer to go soak his head.

Tell him you'll give them back for a set of the 15" steel wheels and 5 Goodyear MT/R's. Otherwise, if it's not in writing, he can pound sand.

Just tell him that you don't remember that conversation and you bought the vehicle as is. Let him know that you will gladly swap them if he can remind you in the written contract that that was actually apart of the deal. But if you get arrested...my bad...

Give em back???? Hey, go through ALL your paperwork, if they are'nt mentioned I would tell them to go themselves. Although no one has them around here, they are NICE as hell, they are forged VOLK wheels. Probably the most respected wheel makers in the world. The choice of NISMO and MUGEN, that says a lot.

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To you



Tim

yea if they delivered it to u like that then screw em... u could even get a lotta money if someone wanted to buy them

I wouldn't give em back either,especially if it's not on the contract.Unless the gave me a good trade.I'd tell them I want a set of BFG M/T's mounted on the Fronty wheels...

If you had a problem and wanted to swap out your transmission because it wasnt working

WOuld THEY switch it out

HECK NO because the truck is delivered AS IS
AS IS doesnt mean oh well we have to take this back or that back

FIGHT THOSE GUYS FOR THEM
the wheels are yours and any small claims court is gonna side with you if these bozos try anything funny.

disclaimer im not a lawyer
I just know because my mom had a car delivered to her as a top of the line sports edition maxima and all she wanted was the low end model. They tried that with us and we told them to pound sand and we won in court.

if i where you i would put NUT LOCKS on at least 2 nuts on each tire and then those crabby fuckers could not get them off if they would come by your house at night....

COOL......

LATER

BOOM

The real question is , What did you agree to?

When they told you this did you nod your head and say , "Sure , no problem?" or did you object at the time?

Is this a case of them telling that the wheels aren't part of the deal and you agreeing to have them removed and then doing the research and realizing that they are a very expensive option?

What arrangement did they make with you regarding exchanging the wheels.

If so, how much is your word worth?

Also, what time of day was it when you finally took delivery of the vehicle? Was it late at night or on a weekend after the service dept. was closed? Did they invite you back for a detail job or other servicing that wasn't able to be completed the night it rolled? If so, they let you roll the truck with stipulations.

Are you in an area where there are plenty of other Nissan dealers to choose from. Because if you pursue this you are probaly going to soil the relationship you have with this one.

Usaully, when a dealer adds aftermarket , dealer installed items like wheels, there will be a hand printed invoice on the window indicating the additional cost of such items.

Along with this, if there are items that the dealer has agreed to install in addition to the vehicle as delivered, there should be an additional sheet of paper outlining the items that are in addition to the as-is delivery of the vehicle.

Do you have any such items in or with your paperwork?

Sure , they are expensive wheels and you might love them to death. But what did you agree to? If they knew that they were selling you the vehicle with the wheels you would have paid for them. And paid dearly.

So the real question is: What did you say. What did they say that they would do and what agreement did you make. Why should they be penalized if you now decide to back out of your agreement?

There are a lot of things you are leaving out of the story. A complete scenario would be better in establishing what the right thing to do really is.

they come by his house at night, is is grand theft, a felony.. i doubt they would do that. take pictures defore you ever put it in the shop, as wheel locks can be defeated with a socket & a hammer. if it is not in the written contract, it never happned. go ask them for free oil changes, and say the salesman said you could have them for the first year.. cost to them, maybe 1 hr of labor, and $20 of parts.. They will ask to see where it is in your contract.. dowsn't mater what was promised verbally, written is all that matters.. after not seeing it, they will tell you no. so read your contract, and tell them no. (btw most little booths are bugged, and taped)so the "as delivered" is paramount..

Every vehicle I've ever purchased comes with a form stating the vehicle is purchased "AS IS" or otherwise outlines tasks that are to be completed as a stipulation of the deal.

Say you bought your X, but you would like the S/C wheels and tires and you want them to install a temp/compass mirror too. This is where they would list these things if they haven't been completed yet. When I bought my last truck I wanted nerf bars and a bedliner form a local custom shop, these items were listed here since I will be taking the vehicle home but will bring it back to have that work done when the parts are available.

My salesperson and finance person always says "This is to say that you are taking hte vehicle just the way it is and that we aren't making any changes to the vehicle as part of the purchase." And then I sign.

I believe that if the paper lists no such agreement then it no longer exists. Like was explained, if you went to them and said that your salesman promised you free oil changes for a year, would they give them to you if you didn't have proof? Doubtful.

take em off sell them and use the money to buy some 15" steel wheels and some BFG Mud Terrains.

Tim

In real estate if it's not in writing, it doesn't exist. I believe the same would be true here.

Sounds like the dealer made a mistake by not putting it in writing! If it is not in writing than it did not happen. When you buy a new vehicle and it did not have a towing hitch on it but you asked and paid extra to have it installed by the dealer, technically they have to put it into writing anything that they are to install (or in your case) to remove from the vehicle.

Keep them. But find another dealer who will work on your car LOL

Instead of the steel wheels, tell them you want the Charcoal Dessert Runner Wheels and Goodyear MT/R's. I would swap for that.

Well said.

Toy Man

Got to agree with socalpunX on this one, what ever happened to people doing what they said they would.

Jeez, do we have a bunch of lawyers on this site (you know people who follow the chain of thought that goes something like this> does not matter that you beat a guy to death with a hammer in front of 500 people, you should be let go because your house was searched illegally to recover said hammer cause the clerk put the wrong apartment number?

If you agreed to the swap out just do it and stop trying to justify going back on your word. Incidentally, they may be screaming expensive and all that but my personal opinion is that they look like ass on your X.

Thanks for all the input! I've got no intention of "going back on my word", and I'm certainly not trying to find ways to screw them over. This dealership went above and beyond in order to put me in the X, and I've got no intention of screwing up the relationship I have with them.

When they mentioned they would need to swap the wheels, I said 'ok', and in the event they call and want to perform the swap, I'll happily oblige. After reviewing the paperwork I signed, I did find a note on one of the docs stating the wheel swap would need to be done. So I can't argue with a doc that I signed!

Like I said before, I had never even heard of Nismos before I bought the X. I have no idea what they cost or their worth, which is why I was asking if I should make a deal out of this. I personally don't even like them that much But bottom line; I did sign a doc stating the swap would be done, so that's that

Thanks again everyone!

You're paying for them, so make sure you get new wheels the same or price or more.

I owe you an apology, I inferred from the discussion that you were looking to weasel out of your word. You are a class kind of guy, good luck with the new truck!

I still think they look crappy though

No apology necessary

While we're on the topic, what do the stock XE wheels look like that I'll (eventually) be getting? And why are Nismo's so expensive? They don't even seem to be a favorite around here.

They are expensive because they made by Volk/Rays Racing http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/emenu/wheel.html (Click on Nismo wheels on the menu to the left) who are considered a high end manufacturer of wheels.

Without going into the different wheel making processes pros and cons , cast VS. forged ect. these wheels are forged which makes for a very strong and a more expensive manufacturing process.

If you are thinking about biting the bullet and financing them as part of your purchase, don't. You don't need them. You can buy very nice wheels that will serve your purpose for less than half the price.

That's the primary reason why they aren't pupular here. People would rather spend that $1,500 on tires AND wheels or a lift or other accessories that might suit their needs.

Plus, they look like a car wheel IMHO.