My buddy's getting some good deals on cooper tires and I came acorss these in the listings they sent him- anyone hear anything good about them? bad? Im not a tire junkie- but i know there're a few of you out there

so, whatcha think?
Cooper STT

i hear they are AWESOME offroad,i got Cooper ATR's since i didnt have the money for the STT's, but after the wheeling i've been doing (mostly mud) i wish i had dished out the cash and gotten the STT's, those are gonna be the next tire i buy

I figure 10,000 more miles and those are the tires that I am getting next.

well.. I called my buddy- he can get the STTs for $125/tire cost.. soo.. looks like Im getting Cooper STTs

i'll letcha know how they really do

Coopers are usually OK...mud no prob, rocks used to rip'm...but the new "armor" might address that issue now....you guinia pigs let us know.

How are they on dry/wet pavement traction wise? tread life?

those look pretty similar to the mud terrains toyo makes

little update- i got a set yesterday- and man.. all i can say is i feel like they're rippin up the pavement.. going down to XFFIII next weekend, so they'll get their first full test run then..
onroad, they handle decent for what they are- and in all honestly, ive never seen a tire with a deeper tread depth.. just overall a very nice tire.
lovin the driveway shots.. new shots to come next week
yes, they're 31x10.5/15s.. they rub on turns as it is.. 32s woulda been a pits.. oh well, next year after the lift

damn that is hot, yea, i think i'm gonna have to go with another cooper tire when my current set of ATRs wear down...that STT is one sweet tire

I got a set three months ago in 285 75-16. So far so good. Took them to ECXC less then a week after I got them. Aside from some chunks kindly removed by rocks, they are wearing very well. It should be interesting to see how they do in the snow.

I tried to get some 32X11.5's for my wife's TJ about 6 weeks ago and no one had them and Cooper was saying it was a 6+ week lead time before they had more to ship. I couldn't wait since the TJ wouldn't pass inspection so I bought 32" Dunlop Mud Rover's and so far they are great, better than when I had BFG Muds on my X.

Next tire Cooper STT's or Toyo Mud Country's.

They are great in mud....they slip off of rocks though...and the chunking reported above...rocks.

Loves mud, hates rocks.

If you don't do rocks...grab these tires.

This sounds like the opinion of someone who has never run this tire.

First off, all tires chunk.

Secondly, I see no evidence to suggest that this tire can't grip rock. The tread pattern is similar to the MT/R and has siping.

I've never seen ANY tire tear as much as BFG's. I've seen them pop on no less than 8 different occasions.

IMO, the Cooper solution for tears is a much better one than anybody else's. I believe that the ArmorTek3 construction will make this one of the strongest radials around.


For as much as they're charging for MT/R's, I think this tire is worth a shot.

If you look at the drivers reports on the page linked to above, I think it will be evident that people who are using this tire feel differently than TJ's speculation.

EDIT:

Almost forgot.

Looks great whitenblue!

hey everyone.. im happy to report that these tires really do walk right through some decent mud.. i felt completely comfortable wheeling through some pretty large mud and water pits today in bradford with some friends! i would definatly recommend these tires to anyone looking for nice mudders.. on road they're much better now that they're aired down to ~35psi.. gas mileage really hasn't suffered much either [after the air down].. hopefully there will be some good pics to post from today! thanks for compliments!

I heard those tires are damn sexy! they look great! any more pics?

I saw those on a truck in a parking lot A while back so I looked um up on the internt. They remind me of MT/R's. Might be my next tire after the Dunlop MT's wear out. To bad I didn't Know about them before I got the tire's I've got now.

And yeah, New mud tires are harsh for about 30+ days. Feels like driving a tractor on concrete.

Jeff - Notice I said "Rocks"...my shorthand for that's what rocks do.



As for slipping off rocks, they do, sorry.

They work well in mud, but, slip off of rocks.

Again, sorry to give you that bad news...great in mud, suck on rocks (Because they have little grip on rocks, despite sipes, etc.).

Sarah's tires in action:


Please note, the strap was there for precautionary purposes, at no time did Sarah need "assistance."

These tires performed very well in some pretty muddy conditions, we didn't hit too many rocks, as it was pouring and everything was mud. She'll put them through the ringer at Rausch Creek though.

-Jeremy

damn thats awesome, i wish i had trails like that around here

I did notice what you said.

I'll take published multi-thousand mile reports over your speculation, though.

You can present it as fact, but what you say is unfounded. You've never run the tire and you don't know.

I can say that I've seen the gummiest Interco on earth slip of rocks, too. And then saw a Goodyear roll right over it. So what? There are too many other variables to just blame the tire.

Presenting something as fact does not make it true. These tires are too new and the jury's still out as far as I'm concerned.

One thing's for sure. That ArmorTek3 has raised the bar for tear protection.......

And those multi thousand mile reports didn't mention that the tire slips off of rocks?

Hmmm.

They were slipping when I saw them.



I'll check out if anyone else has them besides the guys I know, or if someone has good luck on rocks and not slipping...

If I find they grip rocks like glue, and I saw salient rather than representative evidence, I will be a big fan of them, instead of thinking they slip on rocks, and rock in mud.

All tires slip with unskilled drivers.....

:rolleyes:

So - Is your point that tires only slip if the driver is unskilled, and that if a model of tire slips, it is the driver, but not the tire?



Ain't that pushing it a bit?



How about I've seen them in action, and you haven't...and you liked what you read about them...and can't accept a conflicting opinion now?

BTW - I checked, and it seems one of the 4wd mags did a review of them recently, along with some other tires....and they also liked them, with the caveat that they slipped off rocks, which surprised the reviewers...as they LOOKED like they should have gripped....but, slipped.

If I get the article fowarded to me, I'll read it to see if that's the whole story...then I'll see if I can post it or a link depending upon the length, etc.



To repeat, they seem like great tires that slip on rocks....if they don't slip, or if there's no rocks to slip off of, I'd run them.

And chunking isn't a sidewall rip...so the jury's out on that issue thus far...but, I checked the sidewalls out, and they at least LOOK like they'de be OK.

hey TJ.. come to XFFIII this weekend.. we'll find some rocks, test them out, and then everyone can STFU! :p good? reviews are ok, word of mouth/personal testimonials are better.

OK - June 2005 issue of Petersons 4 wheel & Offroad magazine reviewed the STT...and overall, rated it highly, with one caveat...the tread compound slips on rocks, as it is designed to be longer wearing than some other MT's.



The article is called "Lugfest".

So - It seems that I'm not the only one to make that observations