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#273407 - 08/08/02 10:55 AM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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Originally posted by Dariush Molavi:
mine, and most of the other X's (approx 30) at the dealer i bought from had BFG AT's...
ATs, as in All-Terrain, as in a real off-road tire? Not unless your dealer decided to have this done himself, no way in hell they rolled out of the factory on BFG ATs. Xterras have only come with BFG Long Trails, General Grabbers, and in 02 some come with BFG Rugged Trails (just the 17" on the '02s SE/SCs I think). Nissan wouldn't get a small batch of ATs unless it were for something special, like Jeep did with the Rubicon, otherwise they buy in large quantities to get a big discount.

Kudos to your dealer if they really did put ATs on, though they probably charged you a good bit more for them than they paid to have them put on.

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#273408 - 09/08/02 02:58 AM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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Quote:
Originally posted by OffroadX:
Quote:
Originally posted by Dariush Molavi:
[b]mine, and most of the other X's (approx 30) at the dealer i bought from had BFG AT's...
ATs, as in All-Terrain, as in a real off-road tire? Not unless your dealer decided to have this done himself, no way in hell they rolled out of the factory on BFG ATs. Xterras have only come with BFG Long Trails, General Grabbers, and in 02 some come with BFG Rugged Trails (just the 17" on the '02s SE/SCs I think). Nissan wouldn't get a small batch of ATs unless it were for something special, like Jeep did with the Rubicon, otherwise they buy in large quantities to get a big discount.

Kudos to your dealer if they really did put ATs on, though they probably charged you a good bit more for them than they paid to have them put on.

Brent[/b]
Would rather see them put proper tires on than all that other crap. Saw an 02 XE/SC 4x4 at the dealer yesterday. They wanted $29,000 for it after they added leather "appearance" and brush/tail light guards...
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#273409 - 09/08/02 05:22 AM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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#273410 - 15/08/02 09:41 AM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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Hey everyone! Just the facts!
1. No BFG AT has ever left the factory, just Long Trails, Rugged
Trails, and the steamin' POS Grabbers.
2.Grabbers are still put on everyday.
3. And now my first harsh words to any one on this board, "You sir, are a total fucking dumbass! Get a damn clue!
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#273411 - 16/08/02 06:54 AM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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My 2002 SC/SE has the 17" BFG Rugged Trails.

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#273412 - 16/08/02 07:46 AM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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#273413 - 19/08/02 10:18 PM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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So according to the news...

"Continental Tire North America, Inc. today announced that it is initiating a voluntary safety recall of 595,000 of its Continental P275/60R17 ContiTrac AW and General Grabber AW P275/60R17 tires. Consumers will receive free replacements."

Damn, I was hoping for a free set of tires.
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#273414 - 20/08/02 05:43 AM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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Were (are) your tires the same size as what was reported in the news? I don't know of any 2000 Xterra that has 17 inch wheels.

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#273415 - 20/08/02 10:19 AM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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What is an OWNER'S CLUB for if it refuses to bring attention to an obvious problem????? See news release, below, and change your attitude!
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Continental Tire North America Initiates Voluntary Recalls

Charlotte, NC - (Monday, August 19, 2002) Continental Tire North America, Inc. today announced that it is initiating a voluntary safety recall of 595,000 of its Continental P275/60R17 ContiTrac AW and General Grabber AW P275/60R17 tires. Consumers will receive free replacements.

The tires involved have DOT codes from 109 to 4400. They were produced between March 1999 and October 2000 and furnished as original equipment on 106,701 2000-model year and certain 2001-model year two-wheel-drive Ford Expedition and two-wheel-drive Lincoln Navigator sport utility vehicles. Approximately 60,000 of the tires are in the replacement market.

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#273416 - 20/08/02 10:25 AM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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Still doesnt constitute for a class action lawsuit...

There have been many recalls in the past from all manufacturers from food to include entire vehicles....

A class acion lawsuit only mandates that in the case where mulitple injuries to different people has occured. Obviously this flaw in the tires have been caught and recalled for replacement. In the case of Firestone...there were many many injuries and still no recall. The recall only happened after the lawsuit was settled....
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#273417 - 20/08/02 10:27 AM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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Those tires were never on the Xterra, so you are still full of shit.
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#273418 - 20/08/02 11:18 AM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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"Hate to say it but 50 complaints out of hundereds of thousands of tires is insignificant. It's going to take a lot more than that to get anything going. That said; I agree they are lousy tires; possibly even worse than the BFG Long Trails that were used before them. Question is, are they bad enough for a class action lawsuit? Probably not, unless there are many fatalities associated with them."
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How many Xterra deaths will you wait for until you(all) take action???

See this news report. Ford is on top of this situation. What about NISSAN?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020820/ap_on_re_us/tire_recall_4

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#273419 - 20/08/02 03:19 PM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by DesertRAT:
[QB]Show me one documented case on an Xterra and I might start to believe you.
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From the 2WD section of this Club...

"No kidding about the hydroplaning. Man, these tires SUCK when it comes to wet driving, big reason why I flipped my X last year."

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#273420 - 20/08/02 03:22 PM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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"No kidding about the hydroplaning. Man, these tires SUCK when it comes to wet driving, big reason why I flipped my X last year."
Somehow I think too much speed for the conditions was the other reason for the flip. Just me but it is hard to hydroplane when you are not driving fast through water.

ALAN

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#273421 - 20/08/02 03:23 PM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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Quote:
Originally posted by images_garden:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DesertRAT:
[QB]Show me one documented case on an Xterra and I might start to believe you.
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From the 2WD section of this Club...

"No kidding about the hydroplaning. Man, these tires SUCK when it comes to wet driving, big reason why I flipped my X last year."
Hey dumbass, the recall is for tread separations--not hydroplaning. Go away!
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#273422 - 20/08/02 03:26 PM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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Quote:
Originally posted by xoc:
Those tires were never on the Xterra, so you are still full of shit.
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Your attitude needs adjustment, the fact that the recalled GRABBER AW's are a different size shouldn't be much comfort.

NISSAN and General/Continental Tire need to fix their defective products BEFORE people get killed.
You may be the next person to suffer as a result of their product deficiencies.

I don't understand why you would be so staunch defender of the manufacturer. What is your real interest? or maybe you have a conflict of interest.

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#273423 - 20/08/02 03:29 PM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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Do we REALLY need the sign?

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#273424 - 20/08/02 03:45 PM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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Registered: 21/09/01
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Loc: Downtown Houston, TX
Quote:
Originally posted by images_garden:

How many Xterra deaths will you wait for until you(all) take action???
Because there have been none... I have the utmost confidence in my tires and my driving ability... any wrecks that have ocurred so far are, in my opinion, the result of bad driving (high speed + water = hydroplaning).

On that note, will someone please lock this thread up...
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#273425 - 23/08/02 05:16 PM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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I am a new member but this is the first topic I wanted to get in on. My '02 xe has the Grabbers and I have read where Continental General is recalling some Grabbers tires that are on Ford Expeditions (I think they may have even been the replacement tires for the Firestones that were peeling). The generals in question are not the same size as those on my X but MY radar went crazy when I heard that. Let's stay tuned.
Has anyone heard about or have more info on this recall?
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#273426 - 23/08/02 06:08 PM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
OffroadX Offline
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Welcome to the board. Don't spoil your welcome by keeping topics like this alive smile

The twit that started all this created 3 or 4 threads about it, you can find them if you like, but they're not at all relevant to Xterras.

Brent
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#273427 - 23/08/02 06:43 PM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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My only complaint is that I have had 2 flats in 18k miles.
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#273428 - 23/08/02 11:22 PM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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Why yes the tires do suck but the size they are recalling is not on the Xterra. Upgrade like all the rest of us have to a better tire and your worries are gone.
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#273429 - 24/08/02 02:00 AM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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Quote:
Originally posted by images_garden:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DesertRAT:
[QB]Show me one documented case on an Xterra and I might start to believe you.
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From the 2WD section of this Club...

"No kidding about the hydroplaning. Man, these tires SUCK when it comes to wet driving, big reason why I flipped my X last year."
Thanks for taking my quote out of text, asshole.

Yes, my tires do suck. But as Cheetara pointed out, though I was driving five miles under the speed limit I probably was driving too fast for conditions.

Would better tires have allowed me to establish better grip when I spun out and then banked hard to the right to spin back in? Who knows.

Like Eric said, hydroplaning isn't the issue with the recall so it's irrelevant in any case. I was at fault for my accident, and I have said so in the past. These tires do suck in wet weather in my opinion, but with better judgment(which I obviously did not exercise at that time) they're not dangerous.

Maybe you should just pull that Firestone out of your ass and learn to read a little. mad
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#273430 - 27/08/02 06:41 PM Re: GRABBER class-action suit and recall.
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I have a 2002 XE with 6K miles on it, I bought it new in January '02. I have done some light off-roading with Grabber tires deflated as recommended. the experience was enjoyable. On the road they are okay; as I keep them properly inflated (checking once a week). As the X is my first vehicle of this kind (hopefully more X's in my future), It drives noticeably different and reacts to road conditions differently than my last vehicle: a'99 Honda Accord V6. The X weighs over 2 tons with an overall area (width x length) not much larger than an Escort...some moderation and a respect for the turning, braking and acceleration characteristics of these vehicles is definitely needed and should be practiced by some.

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