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#288554 - 15/08/02 07:06 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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I wonder what the record is for replies to a topic. This one is getting up there.
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#288555 - 15/08/02 08:14 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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Damn, stop reading the board for a month and someone posts something worth reading. I would be interested in the delay assembly as well if more are made.

Thanks
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#288556 - 19/08/02 01:52 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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I just put it in and it works great! The money is on its way.
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#288557 - 19/08/02 03:15 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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Hey ElectroKen,

I just got your device in the mail and hooked it up in about a half hour. It works great. Hoping for rain to see if 10 sec. delay will be good. It seems about right. I like that the window washer still works to wipe off the wash without delay.

Putting your check for $20 in an envelope as soon as I get off the computer.

Thanks for listening to us all and helping us out.
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#288558 - 19/08/02 04:31 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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Originally posted by Xterradon:
I wonder what the record is for replies to a topic. This one is getting up there.
Not even close.
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#288559 - 19/08/02 07:38 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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And...? [Sleep]
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#288560 - 19/08/02 08:51 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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And what? [Huh?]
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#288561 - 20/08/02 01:13 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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just got the thing in the mail and i'd swear it came from the factory (actually, it looks a little bit better than some things that have come from the factory). i'll get it installed this weekend.

you da man, electroken smile
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#288562 - 20/08/02 01:28 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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Any word on a second batch of those very cool rear wiper delays? [Wave]

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#288563 - 20/08/02 02:21 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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I would be really interested in the wiper mod. Does anyone have a picture of what it looks like installed?

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#288564 - 20/08/02 05:49 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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Originally posted by TatsuoX:
And what? [Huh?]
AND, what is the record. I don't really have time to go through all past topics to find how high one has gotten. Please enlighten me.
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#288565 - 21/08/02 01:08 AM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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Oh, sorry.

39 pages and 502 posts long. Started by me, and driven on by the likes of yours truly, mineralblue, cds3, Ian, Tonka Ross, PNUTMNM, and several, several others. Called the, "Here ya go Tonka Ross/Booty Call" thread, it is still the record.

Unfortunately, Ian destroyed it. [Finger]
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#288566 - 21/08/02 02:59 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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Well then, you are right, not even close. So that's how you guys have so many posts to your name. smile
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#288567 - 21/08/02 03:26 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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Electroken,

I was curious if you are using the PIC1208A or some other 8 pin micro.

Ken.

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#288568 - 21/08/02 06:40 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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Do you suppose there would be a benefit to putting a glass inline fuse on the power lead?
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#288569 - 21/08/02 06:46 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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Originally posted by Xterradon:
Do you suppose there would be a benefit to putting a glass inline fuse on the power lead?
The box includes a self-resetting "polyfuse" that trips at 0.6 amps. When the power is removed the polyfuse resets. It's all the protection it needs.

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#288570 - 21/08/02 06:48 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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Originally posted by wkc160:
Electroken,

I was curious if you are using the PIC1208A or some other 8 pin micro.

Ken.
Close. I'm using the PIC12C671 because I wanted an analog input. The box includes a trimpot that is read by the micro to set the delay from 1 to 20 seconds.

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#288571 - 21/08/02 07:11 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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ElectroKen, are you going to make any more? Please?! Pretty Please!! :p

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#288572 - 21/08/02 07:18 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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The last 3 units from batch #1 ship on Friday. The building of batch #2 starts next week.

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#288573 - 21/08/02 09:14 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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Ahh...yes the PIC12671. Well I guess this is a good use as any for the A/D input.

I know the PIC makes things a lot easier to change through software changes, versus an analog approach (I'm also a digital person so I understand), was there another reason that you didn't want to use the 555 timer to set some on/off duty cycle via the RC constant? It just seems like using a PIC is almost like using a Cray as an adding machine, but as with anything more power/flexibility the better laugh

Just another curious electronics junky.

Ken.

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#288574 - 22/08/02 02:54 AM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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The 555 is a great part but I've come across a few designs that simply worked better with a micro.

When using a 555 as a timer its repeatability is only as good as the capacitors used and when timing 20 seconds they can get large. I confess that I never did the math to find out just how big the timing cap would be in this situation.

The 555 also has another quirk when the circuit is first powered. The first interval is always considerably longer than the rest. It triggers at 0.33*VCC and 0.67*VCC and when you first turn it on it takes longer because it has to charge the cap to 0.67*VCC from zero. Does it matter for wipers? Probably not.

There are ways around all of these problems, but with micros being so cheap now it wasn't worth the trouble. Only 8 pins and with an internal oscillator! (granted, an RC).

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#288575 - 22/08/02 11:31 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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I do not need one but wanted to say Electroken you are the man. It is very nice to have someone like you in our community. Keep up the excellent work.
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#288576 - 23/08/02 07:35 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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It may not be so excellent-

Anyone installing the box should also test the rear washer when they are done with the installation. Someone with the box has reported that their rear wiper no longer comes on with the rear washer, which of course is not the way it should be.

If the 2000 and 2002 wiper switches are the same then this should not happen, but WE DONT KNOW FOR SURE THAT THEY ARE THE SAME.

12 boxes have been built and shipped. I am building no more until I know for sure that these 12 work as intended.

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#288577 - 23/08/02 09:35 PM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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Quote:
Originally posted by Gold Rush:
Hey ElectroKen,

I just got your device in the mail and hooked it up in about a half hour. It works great. Hoping for rain to see if 10 sec. delay will be good. It seems about right. I like that the window washer still works to wipe off the wash without delay.

Putting your check for $20 in an envelope as soon as I get off the computer.

Thanks for listening to us all and helping us out.

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#288578 - 24/08/02 07:23 AM Re: Intermittent rear wiper
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Thanks for trying to help but a sample of one is not enough. There could be a mid-year wiring change that I don't know about.

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